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[hap0206]

And there you have it --

Trump is the sum of our failures. A country that allows its environment to be ravaged, its children to be shot, its wealth to be hoarded, its workers to be exploited, its poor to starve, its cops to murder, and its minorities to be hunted doesn’t really deserve to be “saved.” It deserves to fail.

--the essence of the dems/lefties/libs -- the recap of their hatred of America -- so hang on -- MAGA will work for all of us
LIG

[janice shell]

Elie Mystal is absolutely right:

If anything, thinking that we are better than Trump, thinking there is some “silent majority” who opposes the unserious grotesqueries of the man, is the core conceit that has led the Democratic Party to such total ruin.

We're also unrealistic. Back in 2016, most Dems were sure Hillary would win. Yes, some people hadn't liked her for decades; they said she was "polarizing". But we didn't want to think about that. What we DID want to think about was the brilliant future that lay ahead. Surely we'd see gains in both houses of Congress! Why, the presidential victory might usher in a decade or more of Democratic dominance across the board.

But that did not happen. And this year, we were saying some of the same things. We need to get over the optimism. It doesn't work.

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Kamala Harris Never Had a Chance

"There’s No Denying It Anymore: Trump Is Not a Fluke—He’s America
The United States chose Donald Trump in all his ugliness and cruelty, and the country will get what it deserves."

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[...]FUUUUUUUUUCK
And to those who would counter, “MOTHERFUCKING FUCKING FUCK,” I say…fair enough. I see where you’re coming from. MOTHERFUCKING FUCKING FUCK indeed. Perhaps even HOLY CARCINOGENIC BALLS OF LIGHT-DEVOURING FUCK.
The fuck, America? You chose…poorly.
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It’s obvious now. We should have known all along.

By Mitchell S. Jackson Published: Nov 9, 2024

“The most disrespected person in America is the Black woman. The most unprotected person in America is the Black woman.” —Malcolm X

“The ultimate logic of racism is genocide, and if one says that one is not good enough to have a job that is a solid quality job, if one is not good enough to have access to public accommodations, if one is not good enough to have the right to vote, if one is not good enough to live next door to him, if one is not good enough to marry his daughter because of his race. Then at that moment, that person is saying that that person who is not good to do all of this is not fit to exist or to live. And that is the ultimate logic of racism.” —Martin Luther King Jr.

“They not like us.” —Kendrick Lamar

This undoubted nadir attests to an idea I’ve presented many times as a writing prompt in my college classrooms: The floor of the white man’s failures is the ceiling of the Black man’s expectations.

Not sure who said it.

Be clear: My sense of white power/supremacy is racist and patriarchal, i.e., the rule of white men. Be clear: My idea of white power/supremacy includes those who believe they’ll benefit from the rule of white men. Be clear: When I say white supremacy/power, I mean it as American’s most genuine founding principle. Be clear: What I mean by white power/supremacy is ways of thinking and being bound to end the same way Martin Luther King Jr. cautioned racism would end—in genocide.

Donald Trump’s victory .. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a62826427/trump-wins-presidential-election-2024/ .. lays bare the troubling-to-the-max truth that Vice President Kamala Harris never had a realistic shot to become the next president, that millions upon millions of Americans had predetermined to vote, at all costs, on behalf of white power/supremacy. That it mattered little-to-not-one-motherfucking-iota how much the vice president’s backstory affirmed the so-called American dream, or how excellent or qualified or experienced she was, or the fact that she has a clean criminal record and no bankruptcies. Her landslide loss made plain the truth that there was no policy she could propose to persuade a majority of white people, that it didn’t matter how much she preached about unity and peace and hope, that it mattered none the number of times she flashed her bright smile or how charismatic she was on SNL, that I was naive as fuck to think any of that would have ever been enough. Trump’s decisive win proves that most white folks, and those who covet proximity to them (the worst white supremacists are the ones who aren’t white, says my former colleague Dr. Shanee Wallace), were in fact single-issue voters whose single issue was ratifying a great myth of whiteness: The worst white man is more worthy than the best of anybody else.

Harris’s resounding defeat also reminded me that white America hates my mama (and my daughter .. https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/a43461751/gradutation-advice-for-daughter/ .. and my sisters and my aunts and my female cousins), that they wish ill on who I come from, first, and me a close second.

Contemplating the aforementioned mendacity kept me in bed till well past my normal wakeup the day after the election. A couple times throughout the morning, my eyes got wet, and I screamed the way I do when I’m in pain .. https://www.esquire.com/lifestyle/health/a60314478/black-grief/ . Other times I clamped my wet eyes shut and gave myself the grace of a few more minutes of lethargy. Other times, I lay across my bed and tried deep breathing. When at last I decided I couldn’t lie there forever, I got up, stretched, and did push-ups and squats and ran a couple miles on the treadmill, all while admonishing myself that my efforts were something akin to training for the trials sure to come. Next, I checked several exit polls and found data that quantified what I’d known in my heart.

Per ABC’s exit polls, 60 percent of white men, 53 percent of white women, and 55 percent of Latino men (plus an alarming 21 percent of Black men .. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a62792482/kamala-harris-black-male-voters/ ) voted for Trump.

Now, there are the numbers, and then there is how the numbers make me feel. What’s important is a feeling. What’s important is a feeling. What’s important are those feelings.

James Baldwin said, “To be a Negro in this country and to be relatively conscious is to be in a state of rage almost, almost all of the time.” Rage when I slunk into the UPS Store, where I keep a mailbox, and every white person I saw lowered their eyes or looked away; when not a single one of them, as was common, offered a greeting. Rage in the grocery store at white women in yoga pants traipsing through the aisles like all was right with the world. Rage as I idled at a red light, and it struck me that every other white driver or walker I saw might’ve voted against the humanity of my mama—a woman vulnerable in every way that counts—and me. Sorrow when the notary that arrived at my house was a Black woman, and all I could do to commiserate was offer a meek “How you feel?” To which she responded with a half nod that was no parts solace. Sorrow again when I went to check on an order for blinds, saw another Black woman, and, because I was embarrassed, left my immense disappointment tacit. The angst of wondering if the white dude who delivered my Uber Eats that night was also a culprit in our intended undoing. It was the spiral of wondering which of the white people in my orbit stepped into the private Plato’s Cave of a voting booth and darkened a bubble against my mama and me. The spiral of wondering which Black dudes I know were part of that traitorous 20-plus percent. On Thursday, it was the paranoia of trying to tally how many people in Sky Harbor Airport were my nemesis; it was scowling at every white person who laughed a little too loud or who seemed a little too carefree. It was despising the trio of Latino men wearing work gear who chuckled among themselves. It was the urge not to step aside for white people as I made my way to the gate, not to allow a white woman in line in front of me while we boarded. It was questioning the tenor of my civility to the white woman working as an attendant on my flight. It was the immediate enmity of you you you you I felt for the white dude beside me in baggage claim at my destination, a man wearing an Army-fatigue trucker cap—Oakley glasses perched on its brim—and scuffed moc toe boots, a getup I judged as telltale of his politics. It was turning on the radio of my rental car to find it tuned to Fox Satellite Radio and cursing the stranger who had the car before me. It was checking into a hotel and critiquing the helpfulness of the obese white man working the front desk as obvious penance for what he’d done to my mama and me. It has been dazing through these last days dogged by the question Who can I trust? Who can I trust? It has been cautioning myself these past seventy-two hours against becoming the hate that hate produced, not for the sake of altruism but because I know that hate can destroy me as fast as it does anybody else.

So help me, this is the truth of my here and now. Maybe I’ll search for silver linings next week.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a62853313/kamala-harris-no-chance/

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Was America Ever All That Great?

"There’s No Denying It Anymore: Trump Is Not a Fluke—He’s America
The United States chose Donald Trump in all his ugliness and cruelty, and the country will get what it deserves.
[...]
But we, as a country, absolutely deserve what’s about to happen to us. We, as a nation, have proven ourselves to be a fetid, violent people, and we deserve a leader who embodies the worst of us. We are not “better” than Trump. If anything, thinking that we are better than Trump, thinking there is some “silent majority” who opposes the unserious grotesqueries of the man, is the core conceit that has led the Democratic Party to such total ruin. America willed Trump into existence. He was created from our greed, our insecurities, and our selfishness. We have summoned him from the depths of our own bile and neediness, and he has answered."

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"There is no way to overstate the criminal lengths that Trump went to stay in power illegally.
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Will the American project survive the anger of white men?
Carol Anderson
key moments throughout US history, white male anger has been privileged over national security, progress or basic welfare
[...] A friend recently asked: “Do you think the United States will survive the anger of white men?” As blunt as the question is, the core element is not so far-fetched. In fact, the majority of white men (and women) who voted in the presidential election in 2024 have rallied around a man who has called for the “termination of the constitution”, vowed to be a “dictator”, and threatened to deploy the US military against Americans. They support a man who is a convicted felon, an adjudicated rapist, a proven liar, who has been fined nearly half a billion dollars for fraud, who incited an insurrection that injured 140 police officers, and who mismanaged the Covid-19 pandemic causing hundreds of thousands to die needlessly.
The fact that Donald Trump’s candidacy was even viable, given that horrific track record, was because of the support of white men.
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Trump’s re-election reveals us to be a people who, for all our star-spangled self-regard, share the world’s damnable wish for kings and strongmen.

By Charles P. Pierce Published: Nov 12, 2024 10:47 AM EST

I don’t want to alarm anyone unnecessarily—as though any alarm were unnecessary anymore—but the last time we did this, the last time we elected a president whom we’d rejected four years earlier, things didn’t turn out so well. It was in 1892, and former president Grover Cleveland had been nominated by the Democratic party to face incumbent Republican president Benjamin Harrison, who’d beaten Cleveland four years earlier. The primary economic-policy issue in that race involved tariffs, the primary economic-policy issue in every presidential contest since the dawn of the republic. The fact that Cleveland’s campaign was run (badly) by the third cousin of P.T. Barnum couldn’t have helped, either.

Anyway, it is said that upon leaving the White House in 1889, Mrs. Cleveland told the head usher to be careful with the furnishings because the Clevelands would be back in four years. Harrison’s administration was notable for its passage of the so-called McKinley Tariff, a strict protectionist measure that hiked import duties on just about everything to at least 50 percent. (And make no mistake, the tariff’s eye was on the sparrow. Duties on tin plates topped 70 percent.) Harrison also threw his support behind the rising political strength of the “free silver” movement.

Cleveland hated both of these measures, and the rest of the country went with him. The Republicans were slaughtered in the 1890 midterms and then, in 1892, the Democrats swept into the majority in both houses of Congress, and Mrs. Cleveland was back in the White House, undoubtedly checking to see if anyone had chipped a teacup. Twelve days before Cleveland’s second inauguration, the Pennsylvania and Reading Railroad went into receivership. Fairly quickly, the entire economy had collapsed into the Panic of 1893.

Stocks crashed. Credits froze. There were runs on hundreds of banks all over the country. Several other, bigger railroads dissolved into insolvency. Nothing moved by rail or by sea. Unemployment hit between 40 and 50 percent in some places. Cleveland reversed Harrison’s efforts at free silver, and he did get the McKinley Tariff moderated. But the Panic had taken root in almost every facet of American society. Labor unrest exploded. Coxey’s Army of unemployed workers marched on Washington. More ominous was the fact that Cleveland sent in federal troops to break up the strike at the headquarters of the Pullman company and at twenty other sites around the country. And, in the middle of all this, he was diagnosed with cancer of the jaw and hard palate and underwent surgery in secret on a yacht in Chesapeake Bay.

By 1896, western “silver” Populists had seized control of the Democratic nominating process and, at the Democratic National Convention in Chicago, William Jennings Bryan electrified the hall .. https://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/5354/ —and hijacked the party’s nomination—with a single speech:

You come to us and tell us that the great cities are in favor of the gold standard. I tell you that the great cities rest upon these broad and fertile prairies. Burn down your cities and leave our farms, and your cities will spring up again as if by magic. But destroy our farms and the grass will grow in the streets of every city in the country.

My friends, we shall declare that this nation is able to legislate for its own people on every question without waiting for the aid or consent of any other nation on earth, and upon that issue we expect to carry every single state in the Union.

I shall not slander the fair state of Massachusetts nor the state of New York by saying that when citizens are confronted with the proposition, “Is this nation able to attend to its own business?”—I will not slander either one by saying that the people of those states will declare our helpless impotency as a nation to attend to our own business. It is the issue of 1776 over again. Our ancestors, when but 3 million, had the courage to declare their political independence of every other nation upon earth. Shall we, their descendants, when we have grown to 70 million, declare that we are less independent than our forefathers? No, my friends, it will never be the judgment of this people. Therefore, we care not upon what lines the battle is fought. If they say bimetallism is good but we cannot have it till some nation helps us, we reply that, instead of having a gold standard because England has, we shall restore bimetallism, and then let England have bimetallism because the United States have.

If they dare to come out in the open field and defend the gold standard as a good thing, we shall fight them to the uttermost, having behind us the producing masses of the nation and the world. Having behind us the commercial interests and the laboring interests and all the toiling masses, we shall answer their demands for a gold standard by saying to them, you shall not press down upon the brow of labor this crown of thorns. You shall not crucify mankind upon a cross of gold.

Like I said, electing a former president who was 1-1 lifetime in national elections has not historically been a good idea.

But here we are, after a long and painful week, on the brink of an ominous and shadowy future. Say what you will about old Grover Cleveland, but he wasn’t a vengeful sort. He didn’t seek to punish Benjamin Harrison once he got back into the White House. He pardoned 1,107 people over his two terms in the White House, including one David King Udall, who had been convicted of polygamy in Arizona. (David’s grandson, Mo Udall, became fairly important in my life in the years 1975 and 1976.) He did, however, send the army to break up that Pullman strike. This might become relevant as we enter the era of mass deportations. Posse comitatus may fall to the Alien Enemies Act of 1798 as the new president keeps us all safe in case Robespierre comes back.

History is no balm for us today. It rakes the wounds of the present the way the present rakes the ashes of the past. It reveals, brutally and unflinchingly, that we are not a great nation now and that, in the past, we were only a great nation for very narrow shards of time. It reveals, brutally and unflinchingly, that the commitment of the citizens of this country to the ideals of democratic self-government has always been an inch deep and a mile wide. It reveals, brutally and unflinchingly, that we are who we are, and always have been, and likely always will be. It reveals, brutally and unflinchingly, that we are a people who, for all our star-spangled self-regard, share the world’s damnable wish for kings and strongmen.

A truly great nation does not elect Donald Trump to be its president, and it certainly doesn’t elect him again after experiencing his first four years in office. A truly great nation does not allow itself to be stampeded by shadows on the wall, rustling in the bushes, or arrant bullshit on the television. My God, children are not being hustled into the nurse’s office in elementary schools to have gender-affirmation surgery in time to get back to fourth-period English. A truly great nation doesn’t listen to a politician repeatedly dealing in this fourth-rate horror story and decide, hmm, this fellow has interesting thoughts and I would like to put him in an incredibly powerful position with thousands of nuclear weapons at his disposal.

A truly great nation would not allow delusional crackpot MAGA cult members anywhere near the levers of power. I mean, seriously, Kash Patel? Ric Grenell? Robert F. Kennedy Jr.? A truly great nation does not take back rights enjoyed by 51 percent of the population for a half century unless that nation has decided that it doesn’t want the burden of being truly great anymore. It is a fairly heavy lift, I will grant you. That’s why we tried so hard to pretend to be a truly great nation for so long. Now a half-mad, vengeful, vulgar talking yam has come along again to tell us to lay that burden of national pretense aside and let him sell it to authoritarians of many lands while putting some coin into his own pocket and walk whistling away from the destruction he brought with him.

At the height of the Pullman strike, while President Grover Cleveland was sending in the army to bust it, Finley Peter Dunne made sure that his alter ego, Martin Dooley of th’ Archey Road, had his say about the reckless, casual violence of the plutocratic caste.

“This here Pullman makes th’ sleepin’ ca-ars an’ th’ constitution looks afther Pullman. He have a good time iv it. He don’t need to look afther himsilf. He have limons an’ ice to give to his neighbors if he wanted to. He owns towns an’ min. He makes princes iv th’ rile blood iv Boolgahria go round to th’ kitchen dure. He is stiffer than wan iv his own towels. Whin he has throuble ivry wan on earth excipt thim that rides in smokin’ ca-ars whin they rides at all r-runs to fight f’r him. He calls out George Wash’n’ton an’ Abraham Lincoln an' Gin’ral Miles an’ Mike Brinnan an’ ivry human bein’ that rayquires limons an’ ice an’ thin he puts on his hat an’ lams away. ‘Gintlemin,’ says he, ‘I must be off,’ he says. ‘Go an’ kill each other,’ he says. ‘Fight it out,’ he says. ‘Defind th’ constitution,’ he says. ‘Me own is not of th’ best,’ he says, ‘an’ I think I’ll help it be spindin’ th’ summer,’ he says, ‘piously,’ he says, ‘on th’ shores iv th’ Atlantic ocean.’ ”

“Go an’ kill each other,” he says. “Fight it out,” he says.

MAGA.

This article originally appeared in the Last Call with Charles P. Pierce newsletter on November 9, 2024.

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a62882420/trump-reelection-2024/

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This fits with Trump's world: Professor Mary Beard explains why ancient
statues have such teeny-tiny penises on ABC TV's The Art Of

"There’s No Denying It Anymore: Trump Is Not a Fluke—He’s America"

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By Mary McGillivray
ABC Arts

Tue 18 Jun


Health goals? Snobbery? Bullying? Aesthetics? There are a lot of theories about why penises on ancient statues are
so small. (Adobe Stock/ABC Arts: Luke Tribe)

It's an age-old question that troubles museum visitors from all walks of life: Why do ancient statues have such teeny-tiny penises?

On a sunny Thursday afternoon in February, I was ushered into the State Library of Victoria's distinguished reading room to conduct a TV interview with Professor Mary Beard.

Perched on the edge of a desk with the world's most famous classicist — in full view of the hundreds of uni students hard at work under the library's iconic white dome — I wasn't going to waste this opportunity.

So I asked the world-renowned expert one of the most compelling questions about ancient Rome.

Why do Roman statues have such small penises?

"It's the $64,000 question about ancient masculinity, really," says Beard matter-of-factly.

"Whether you are in ancient Greece or ancient Rome, one side of the representation of manhood is a big erect phallus."

"Big" might be an understatement. The frescoes of Pompeii have revealed some comically gargantuan willies — some twice the size of the men themselves.


The frescoes of Pompeii featured some truly mammoth male members. (Supplied: Wikimedia Commons)

"And yet then you come to this idea of what the perfect body looks like in terms of elite sculpture, the one thing that's not stressed is the penis," Beard says.

It's long been argued that the under-endowed male nude of classical times was a statement about a particular kind of ideal masculinity.

In ancient Rome, a healthy body and a healthy mind went hand in hand, and some historians have argued, for the Romans, smaller penises meant larger intellects. Only an animalistic brute would be driven by his sexual desires; the true philosopher prioritised his brain (and mad gains wrestling at the palaestra).

Courtney Act on The Art Of... Masculinity
Shane Jenek aka drag superstar Courtney Act is on a mission: to understand
what masculinity looks like today. So, who better to turn to than his own dad?
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However, Beard doesn't argue for such a straightforward and manosphere-coded answer.

"I don't know how to explain [the tiny penises] except to say, look, there's different ways of thinking about being male and artistic representations give you different ways of thinking about manhood," she says.

What's more interesting, she says, is asking what the ancient Roman, or a "Mr Ordinary", thought and felt when he looked at these images of ideal masculinity.

Whether it was the giant penises in satirical frescoes or the chiselled abs in marble sculptures, Beard argues that what these images were really saying to men is: "What kind of man are you? How does your body weigh up?"


This statue of Hercules, found in the Museo Archeologico Nazionale di Napoli, seems more concerned with big
muscles than a big member. (Wojtek-Rajpold by Wikimedia Commons)

Why do men love thinking about the Roman Empire?

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[insert; To today U.S.A., this fits. Think Trump flock of Red Caesarites. See:
Confirmation: JD Vance is the handpicked leader of the anti-democracy movement in the US
[...]
Trump picked Vance as his running mate because Vance publicly stated he’d do what Mike Pence refused to do – overturn democracy and place the US under Maga control.
P - In response to a question ABC’s George Stephanopoulos asked Vance last February – “Had you been vice-president on January 6th, would you have certified the election results?” – Vance said: “If I had been vice-president, I would have told the states, like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and so many others, that we needed to have multiple slates of electors, and I think the US Congress should have fought over it from there.”
[...]
...‘Red Caesarism’ is rightwing code – and some Republicans are listening
"Here ya go, Hap. Listen to him say it:"
Jason Wilson
Argument for a ‘red Caesar’ to rule US may seem esoteric but conservative think tank behind idea has connections to Trump
[...]In June, the rightwing academic Kevin Slack published a book-length polemic claiming that ideas that had emerged from what he called the radical left were now so dominant that the US republic its founders envisioned was effectively at an end.
P - Slack, a politics professor at the conservative Hillsdale College in Michigan...
[...]
P - Biden warns voters a second Trump presidency will threaten democracy
Read more > https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/28/biden-campaign-democracy-trump-presidency
[...] ...Trump’s personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani admitted he was not making claims of fraud because he had no evidence of fraud. Trafficking in allegations and theories that will clearly not prevail in courts of law, the strategy is to manufacture the appearance of electoral chaos, which then provides cover for at least three Republican controlled legislatures in the battleground states to appoint presidential electors for Trump.
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For Beard, the world of ancient Rome has always been a hyper-masculine place. As the only woman faculty member in her University of Cambridge department for many years, she has been unafraid to insert herself into the "boys club" of classics scholarship, paving the way for women classicists today.

But Beard has clashed with Roman fanboys online. Her outspoken feminist lens on the history of ancient Rome occasionally attracts the ire of Twitter trolls and raging misogynists.

"I think that the ancient Romans provide a safe space for being a male," she says, reflecting on the allure of Roman history to a particular group of men — and their determination to hold onto a specific version of that history.

This only became clearer after the viral TikTok trend of people asking the men in their lives how often they think about the Roman Empire.

"When these guys claim to think about ancient Rome 15 times a day, or whatever it is, they're not thinking about what it's like being a slave down the mines or anything," Beard says.

"They're thinking about being the white, male conqueror. They're conquering the world. They're building bridges and aqueducts and they're trampling on barbarians."

[Kamala Harris Never Had a Chance
[...]
Donald Trump’s victory .. https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a62826427/trump-wins-presidential-election-2024/ .. lays bare the troubling-to-the-max truth that Vice President Kamala Harris never had a realistic shot to become the next president, that millions upon millions of Americans had predetermined to vote, at all costs, on behalf of white power/supremacy.
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Will the American project survive the anger of white men?
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It seems that taking images of Roman masculinity — regardless of phallus size — at face value can be a dangerous thing.

"It is a hugely masculinist vision of the Roman world, which is somehow allowed because it's all such a long time ago and because it's cloaked in the apparent safety of it being classical," says Beard.

For the uncritical history buff, the past can be a comforting place, free from the perils of today's culture-war hot topics about gender, race and equality. But, as Beard's career demonstrates, the male fantasy of ancient Rome warrants a critical eye.

Beard said she was struck by how strange the question was when the trend went viral.

"I thought they couldn't possibly say … 'How often do you think about the Third Reich'? But somehow it was fine to say, 'Oh, I think about Rome about 15 times a day.'"

Beard expressed this thought in a tweet and, having clearly touched a nerve, was met with a huge pile-on from the blokes. Her response?

"If you call me an annoying old hag, I reckon I've got it right."

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