I used to answer calls from a police association with 'IF you could assure me that my contribution would result in better selection, training and supervision of police I'd contribute....' I hang up first
“There has not been a universal defund movement across major cities,” Cooper said. “I think there was a little bit of retooling of the department budgets, but I can’t say that defund has actually played out. The sustained increase in violent crime, the gun violence that we’ve been seeing, and calls from the community that they don’t want less police, they want better police, seems to be resonating.”
Why would you bring up something that we were not talking about - defunding the police. Per the chart you first presented over a 7 year period of when Trump first came into office and now crime is down.
OMOLIVES, Screw Trump. Fact is neither Biden nor the Democrat Party supported 'defund the police', though Trump and the rest of his GOP thugs used the ill-considered phrase disingenuously against both of them. Defunding in most all except most extremist eyes meant reforming by reorganizing.
"When you turn "things" that should not be political into "political things" .... you are going to f' it up. I don't recall Trump or Biden ever mentioning or supporting the idea of de-funding the police"
See: Camden police reboot is being misused in the debate over police reform [...] Yes, the New Jersey city abolished and replaced its police department. But the results weren’t good until activists stepped in. [...] Misinterpreting crime statistics — and ignoring historical context — can produce catastrophic policy blunders. That’s why it’s important to look more carefully at how police reforms actually work.
For example, during the 1990s, violent crime in New York dropped 56 percent and nonviolent crime dropped 65 percent .. .. https://www.nber.org/digest/jan03/w9061.html . At the time, the gains were attributed to the broken windows approach .. https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1982/03/broken-windows/304465/ .. to policing advocated by Mayor Rudolph Giuliani (R) (elected in 1993), which theorized that cracking down on small infractions would lead to lower incidence of more serious crimes. Because of New York’s prominence, Giuliani’s claims had a major effect on police strategies across the country, as many other cities adopted the approach.
In other words, the oversimplification of a single high-profile case — without proper context or comparison — propagated deeply racist policies.
Which brings us to Camden. [...] Furthermore, Camden’s excessive-force complaints that had increased early in the Metro Police’s tenure have dropped 95 percent .. https://www.bloombergquint.com/businessweek/how-camden-new-jersey-reformed-its-police-department .. since 2014 — the peak of the Metro Police’s broken windows strategy and two years into the new force’s lifespan. The de-escalation strategies then, not the change in police forces, seem to be working to limit police violence.
What can we take from the real, messy story of Camden’s police restructuring? The disbanding of the Camden City Police Department was not a silver bullet. In fact, it was deeply anti-democratic and done with the purpose of increasing enforcement. But local activism subsequently led to new force-reduction policies. Camden is not a story of how disbanding and creating a new force magically fixes policing, it is a story of how community persistence can lead to meaningful change and how force-reduction policies can, in fact, reduce force.
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