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OMOLIVES

10/17/24 8:38 PM

#497441 RE: OMOLIVES #497438

To follow up on that, the major concern should be centered on who they want to recruit. Those nut jobs are targeting a more liberal group than conservative group....so they are looking for those young impressionable children under 30. They have no power and are just tourists in my book....but that is a political mantra among all political groups, whether legitimate or bags of shit :)
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blackhawks

10/17/24 9:16 PM

#497450 RE: OMOLIVES #497438

But their IS a fascist GOP candidate for president; the ONLY candidate on the record expressing desires to do away with the Constitution, be a dictator for 'just one day' and to use the NG *OR the military to punish those whose political positions displease him.

* Dumb f'k doesn't know that the NG IS the military.
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fuagf

10/18/24 4:07 AM

#497512 RE: OMOLIVES #497438

OMOLIVES, But there are many fascist-like people in the GOP. And there are fascists shoveling
fascist dollars into American politics. And American fascism does have a history (see bottom)...

The three pillars of fascism
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The Mass Psychology of Trumpism
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While fascism is always right wing, it does not have a particular governing program. Fascism is, instead, a series of tactics for gaining and holding power. The three essential fascist tactics*** are: (1) demonization of domestic enemies; (2) preposterous lies; and (3) contempt for democratic institutions.
Let us consider each in turn.
(1) Demonization of domestic enemies
Fascism creates a myth of victimhood...
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(2) Preposterous lies
Fascism relies on outrageous and absurd disinformation...
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(3) Contempt for democratic institutions
Fascism encourages contempt for democratic institutions, particularly elections, and the rule of law. Instead, it calls on the majority group to turn over power to a strongman and his lieutenants, while glorifying the use of violence in support of fascist myths and goals.
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MAGA is fascism

At this point, the main reason why most Democrats and the media haven’t clearly declared that MAGA is a form of fascism is that, unlike the 1920s and 30s, the movement’s apparent leaders are clowns. Donald Trump? Rudy Guiliani? Marjorie Taylor Greene? They’re far more like Colonel Klink than Hermann Göring.

But Trump and his cronies don’t really run MAGA. Right-wing media, especially social media, have turned so many conservatives into fascist mythology-believing extremists that candidates have to mirror that extremism to win Republican primaries; nearly every Republican candidate who rejects fascist lies is doomed. In other words, the real leaders of the movement, the billionaires who finance extremist media, are as clever and determined as any fascists from history.

So sorry that MAGA leaders are upset to be called fascists. Sure, it’s a slap across the face. But the mainstream media, pundits and average Americans need that slap. Millions of Americans are simply unaware of the danger we face; they don’t know the stakes.
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Trumpism is a psychology, not an ideology

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"Donald Trump and His Two Forms of Fascism
[...]Related: [...] Biden calls Trump's philosophy 'semi-fascism'
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.. and ..
“David Corn’s AMERICAN PSYCHOSIS is essential reading for anyone hoping to restore political sanity in America. He argues convincingly that the toxic brew of bigotry, conspiracy theories, and lies that define Trumpism started long before Trump.
P - Corn chronicles the Republican Party’s decades-long slide into the gutter and weaves this investigative history into a compelling narrative that is equal parts horrifying and entertaining. Corn has managed to make brilliant sense of American senselessness.”?Jane Mayer, author of Dark Money
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[...]A Republican National Committee spokesperson howled that Biden’s comment was “despicable.” New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu exclaimed that it was “horribly inappropriate” and urged Biden to apologize. Sen. Ted Cruz tweeted that “communists have always called their enemies ‘fascists.’” (Biden is a communist?) But what to call a movement that denies election results, falsely claims an election was stolen, and refuses to admonish or excommunicate a leader who encouraged and used violence in his effort to overturn that election? In a flurry of unhinged tweets this week, Trump demanded his restoration to the presidency (a move impossible under the Constitution) and hinted that the FBI raid on Mar-a-Lago might spur his supporters to violence. That all sounds a bit fascist-ish."
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The intellectual effort to craft or divine a coherent Trumpist ideology didn’t fare much better. Just over a year ago, Julius Krein launched a new journal called American Affairs to “give the Trump movement some intellectual heft,” as Politico put it. As I wrote at the time, American Affairs’ dilemma was that by associating itself with Mr. Trump, it would be forced to either defend the incoherence of his behavior or break with him to defend its own consistency.
P - Six months later, after the debacle of Mr. Trump’s response to the neo-Nazi rally in Charlottesville, Va., Mr. Krein recanted his support for the president.
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Mouths Full of Blood: Trump and His Backers Spread Lies, Violence and Fascism
[...]Former President Donald Trump has achieved a unique status in United States history. He is the first president to be indicted for conspiring to overturn a presidential election, defraud the U.S. and obstruct official proceedings by attempting to subvert the peaceful transfer of power.
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The GOP’s Authoritarian Acceleration Internal resistance to its anti-democratic turn has all but vanished.
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AHA! The one i was looking for!!

American Nazism and Madison Square Garden
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The birth of American fascism is nearly impossible to identify within the context of history. The American fascist movement in the 1930s and early 1940s, until recently, was arguably the most organized attempt to bring Nazism to the forefront of American society. While not the earliest pro-Nazi American organization, the German-American Bund was one of the most successful. The Bund was founded in 1936 with a goal to empower German-American citizens to spread Nazi ideology in the United States and to create an American counterpart to the German Nazi Party. The culmination of the German American Bund’s work would be a February 20, 1939 rally at Madison Square Garden in Midtown Manhattan where 22,000 members gathered amidst a flurry of American and Nazi imagery.

Fritz Kuhn, Bundesfuher of the German-American Bund. Front center with glasses. Image courtesy of the US Dept of Justice.
P - Fritz Kuhn, a German veteran of World War I, was the leader...
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OMOLIVES, Surely you and yours, if little else, should at least put Madeline Albright's warning on your table.

"There are no fascist political groups in the US and the closest thing to such would be these little goofball tourist groups calling themselves neo-nazis. So...no...the so called political left and so called politically right are nothing close to such. Just using the political terms ,left or right, is foolish and false because such does not exist. That all came about in 1789 ..from the idiot French during the political nutjob era. You want to see something bizarre..which is considered far right and fascist...and at the same time look extremely far left and communistic???? Look no further....:

https://www.americannaziparty.com/what-we-stand-for/

If you dare to read it...it comes off as a mostly liberal demand set......which I guarantee has been altered to such over the years. Fkng' wako's
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As for your one strawman example, it is an extreme position of keen environmentalists. You have heard of ambit claims, and one day the world will likely get there. Yours is not an example of fascism, whereas you do have plenty above. Plus an Albright warning.