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Artguy

02/24/07 5:41 PM

#10627 RE: fiftycentman #10625

Farm equipment is certainly an interesting area for a couple of reasons. For anything other than a small specialty farm, you really are running a major operation. Big equipment to farm large tracts is super expensive. Always has been really. Price a tractor tire and you'll see why today's farmer has to be half scientist and half businessman.

I'm not sure how quickly an OEM like Deere would buy into Torvec tech. Niche manufacturers like that love keeping everything in house and Deere has always been an odd tech. Lamborghini would be very interesting. They were built on tractors and only started making cars when Ferrari wouldn't build what the head of Lamborghini wanted. The Japanese are certainly looking to move upsize in that market. If OSK does buy in via a stock swap, they could expand into that market.

My experience with tractors is limited to a 100 acre dairy farm a long time ago. Most of the time you are going so slow and in such a low gear that unless you are really overloading the tractor or on a hill, things were fine. I could see big advantages to moving a heavy load under bad conditions of mud, snow or hills, with the right IVT + gearpack. Farmers CERTAINLY would look closely at any fuel savings. When you are driving a tractor all day over hundreds of acres, it is a make or break budget item. As I said, I'm far removed from farming today. The idea that a farmer would be spending or borrowing a million plus to run a farm with tractors that had air conditioning, automatic transmissions, GPS, and stero, would have been dismissed as lunatic ravings by my uncle. Any farm is hard work and a couple of bad breaks can put you out of business. I think technology that saves them money and makes the work safer, at the standard purchase price, would definitely take market share.

In my opinion Torotrac will not move from lawn tractors to medium and larger farm tractors. You don't spend the kind of money it takes to farm hundreds of acres on equipment that breaks down or needs a lot of attention. The abuse and demands on farm tractors are pretty serious. I'm skeptical of the ability of the Torotrac design to stand up to that and to operate like it would have to under cold conditions. EOM
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allnumbers

02/24/07 9:58 PM

#10630 RE: fiftycentman #10625

Here is the a link to John Deere's IVT

However it is really kinda old.
It was last updated on 10-Mar-2006.
John Deere claim's that:

"The revolutionary Infinitely Variable Transmission (IVT) provides excellent performance in all farming conditions. "

http://salesmanual.deere.com/sales/salesmanual/en_NA/tractors/2006/feature/transmissions/8030_option...

Don't think that they will be needing Torvec's tech any time soon.