Lebby text from interview: If my understanding is correct, and he sees the TAM over the next 10 years for these transceivers is 100 million units. I just looked at cost of current 800G transceivers (optical) and they are $8000. Even cutting that price in half (assuming Lightwave and bring the price down considerably without the driver chips) that would be 100 million units X $4000 = $400 Billion over a 10 year period. I remember in a different interview posted by Proto that Dr. Lebby said Lightwave will get the lion share of the market, or something like that. So even if Ligthwave gets 50% of the market, and then what dollar amount will they get for these licenses per transceiver? The key, as Dr. Lebby has said, is to be ubiquitous, and thereby they don't have to make everything with 1 partner; they can license, royalties, or even manufacturing partnership but key is to accelerate the adoption (acceptance; becomes a must have product). Maybe need KCC's calculation estimate sheet to refresh my memory, but things will really rip in the 3-5 year commercial window imo.