Wrong!! The catalyst will be the data set that the industry is requiring and based on Lebby's summary of the presentation for ECOC that he will be giving it would appear that the data set will be part of the presentation, or if not 100% completed yet, there certainly will be a good deal of it I would expect, and from his Planet Micro interview he was over the top excited so I'm expecting the data set to be exceptional this will trigger the licensing and Tech transfer agreements there are to be expected in the remainder of 2023 and into 2024 anything else that teddy bear is trying to make you believe is a bunch of hogwash and his usual manipulative deceptive ways!!!!