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al44

09/04/23 4:39 PM

#176108 RE: bbotcs #176102

Hey bbotcs-

No matter how much of Trump's accomplishments you point out, a tried and true TDSer will ignore it. Orange man bad is all they know.

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09/04/23 9:22 PM

#176152 RE: bbotcs #176102

bbotcs, "Trump had the U.S.-Mexican border under control. " Nope.

Transcripts reveal Trump's tense calls with world leaders
"'He Hates America': Trump Slammed For Admitting He'd 'Prefer' To Live Overseas"
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B402 - The gaping hole in conix's position is her blaming Biden for the border situation. That
position is bullshit. Some objective info on those two positions most of us here agree on:
Related: [...] Ok! Since you are now into the wonderful new world of gathering facts we have more here for you:
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Title 42: Trump-era border policy creates headache for Biden
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170859429

"Trump put trade tariffs on China." You got that one fact right. However...

[...]Presidents Obama and Trump prioritized creating more manufacturing jobs, but neither succeeded. Trump showed that it is easier to threaten a trade war than it is to win one. At best, Trump’s use of tariffs on many goods from many countries was a wash, as the U.S. trade deficit as a share of GDP was constant over the Trump era. Instead, American companies and consumers paid almost all of the tariffs, economists found a small .. https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/feds/files/2019086pap.pdf .. loss .. https://www.nber.org/papers/w25672 .. of jobs, and farmers who faced retaliatory tariffs on their goods required tens of billions of dollars of assistance to avoid bankruptcy.

If you cared at all about truth and fact, you would be pleased to read this post.

"Trump kept North Korea and Russia in line." Nope. He didn't start any wars, one plus which goes to geopolitical politics more than
anything else. And Trump put a deadline on withdrawing from Afghanistan which made it more difficult for Biden to get out gracefully.

"Trump got rid of ridiculous regulations." Trump was not nearly as successful there as you imagine it ..
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/examining-some-of-trumps-deregulation-efforts-lessons-from-the-brookings-regulatory-tracker/ .

"He forced Europe to pay a fair share for their defense. " Nope. Trump simply continued Obama's policy there by encouraging others who were already working at it to continue.

"And he did those things and a lot more while under constant attack,..." Poor criminal Tramp Trump. Victim always, eh. LOLOL Fact is Trump did not suffer nearly as much legislative obstruction as Obama did. And as Biden is. See:

Good post! Nothing like a bit of factual concertinaed history. Yessiree. Today Gingrich plays the statesman by having a go at Gaetz. Uh uh.
[...]
It was Mr. Gingrich, after all, who as a congressional candidate in 1978 told an audience, “One of the great problems we have in the Republican Party is that we don’t encourage you to be nasty.” A decade later, Mr. Gingrich coached his colleagues to cast the opposition as “the loony left,” saying, “When in doubt, Democrats lie.”"
P - Note the Gaetz six justify their obstructionist bullshit by saying McCarthy cooperated too much with the Democrats. Much similar to the rationalizations of those who booted Gingrich
P - "Though Mr. Gingrich and his two lieutenants, Dick Armey, the House majority leader, and Tom DeLay, the majority whip, preached ruthless partisanship, in the end, Mr. Gingrich was forced out of power by his fellow Republicans in 1998 after agreeing to a budget deal with Mr. Clinton. The party lost the House majority in 2006, “though frankly, even before then, the Gingrich faction did not feel that they had won when George W. Bush won, because they weren’t interested in his ‘compassionate conservatism,’” Mr. Hoyer recalled."
P - And never forget from where the Tea Party raised it's ugly ultra-partisan confrontational head, the Caucus Room restaurant meeting:
P - "The election of Barack Obama in 2008 thrust Mr. Gingrich back into relevancy. On the night of Mr. Obama’s inauguration, the former speaker gathered at a Washington steakhouse with a small group of desultory Republicans that also included a second-term congressman from California, Kevin McCarthy. It was Mr. McCarthy who, consulting his inner Gingrich, urged a hyperaggressive approach to Democratic control in Washington.
P - We’ve got to challenge them on every single bill and challenge them on every single campaign,” he told the steakhouse group that night.
P - Mr. Gingrich left the dinner feeling much encouraged. “You will remember this day,” he said to the others.
[... to the bottom ...]
First Republicans said, 'Screw democracy we'll reject every bill Obama put up', GOP's Anti-Obama Campaign Started Night Of Inauguration
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He wasn't at the meeting of 15, but
Mitch McConnell Vows to Block Biden’s Entire Agenda Just to Be a Dick
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=166130221
Then some of the stinking icing on that anti-democratic cake ot the Republicans
and against all rules of traditional decency McConnell denied Obama a SCOTUS spot
The End of Genuine Law and Order in the United States?
[...]
...What Happened to America’s Political Center of Gravity?
[...]
Consider McConnell's lost desk under the number of bills he is holding up.
Extreme obstructionism, possibly the worst in America's history, promotes anarchy.
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P - Today's Republican Party is acting in a way that defies all historic norms
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=168105929
Simply the facts ma'am --
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" ...which resulted in two ridiculous impeachments." Shrug. Trump violated many laws. You don't care about that, obviously.

"Trump's energy policies kept inflation low." Not one objective expert on energy would agree with you on that.

"Oh, yes, he took out ISIS. No he didn't. Remember that Boy Scout group? Trump is a salty; Biden is a worm." Nope.

Trump takes credit for ISIS defeats. Does he deserve it?

Jim Michaels USA TODAY Dec. 2017

[...]

What Trump left unsaid was that his administration is pursuing a strategy against ISIS largely formulated under President Barack Obama.

“Nothing President Trump did or authorized was a fundamental game changer in the counter-ISIS strategy,” said Jennifer Cafarella, an analyst at the Institute for the Study of War.

The Obama strategy was designed to support local ground forces in Iraq and Syria with coalition air power, advisers and training. American ground forces are not engaged in direct combat with the terror group.

The United States has deployed about 5,200 troops to Iraq and 2,000 in Syria. Most are serving in advisory or training roles.

The overall strategy hasn’t changed, but Trump’s decision to give field commanders more decision-making authority has accelerated the pace of the campaign, analysts said.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2017/12/07/trump-takes-credit-isis-defeats-does-he-deserve/931657001/

"TRUMP 2024!"

"Trump had the U.S.-Mexican border under control. Trump put trade tariffs on China. Trump kept North Korea and Russia in line. Trump got rid of ridiculous regulations. He forced Europe to pay a fair share for their defense. And he did those things and a lot more while under constant attack, which resulted in two ridiculous impeachments. Trump's energy policies kept inflation low. Oh, yes, he took out ISIS. Remember that Boy Scout group? Trump is a salty; Biden is a worm.

TRUMP 2024!
"

Nope.