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zab

01/08/23 7:02 PM

#434536 RE: B402 #434534

The only cancer culture I ever see comes from Republicans, cancel books, cancel American history, cancel everything Republicans do not believe in. Republicans cancelled protesting against any injustice they kept doing on minorities. Republicans cancel everything, new forms of relationships being expressed, religions that are not Christian in origin. When I look at the republican party like I did last week, a minority member for speaker got less than 10 votes. It was mostly older white men arguing about being able to cancel Congress everytime they did not like something.
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arizona1

01/08/23 7:12 PM

#434539 RE: B402 #434534

Cancel Culture....Its a Dem problem,

You mean the MAGA book banning's is not considered cancel culture?
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newmedman

01/08/23 7:21 PM

#434541 RE: B402 #434534

explain cancel culture to me please. Explain it like I am 5 years old.

Tell me who or what is cancelled and why.
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blackhawks

01/08/23 7:50 PM

#434545 RE: B402 #434534

More hysteria and hyperbole from you. I suspect that conservatives are somewhat more alarmed, note 'somewhat', see the numbers below, because more of them are big mouthed Trumpanzee bigots who simply don't like being called out for what they say and do. Tough shit I say to them, what goes around comes around.

In any case, once again reality doesn't support your claims; not in the '18 midterms nor in the '20 presidential, Senate and House elections were Dems punished for the ownership you attribute to them. That's in YOUR head and not in the heads of enough voters to punish Dems.

The right has the 'ownership' of wanting to cancel elections that don't go their way, not teach history as it actually happened and plenty of attempts at censorship of books that they just don't agree with.

And look, the Independents are not seeing it as you do, as an electoral deal breaker, either.

A November 2021 Hill/HarrisX poll found that 71% of registered voters strongly or somewhat felt that cancel culture went too far, with similar numbers of Republicans (76%), Democrats (70%), and independents (68%) saying so.[62] The same poll found that 69% of registered voters felt that cancel culture unfairly punishes people for their past actions or statements, compared to 31% who said it did not. Republicans were more likely to agree with the statement (79%), compared to Democrats (65%) and independents (64%).[63]

Criticism of the concept

A number of professors, politicians, journalists,[64][65][66] and activists question the validity of cancel culture as an actual phenomenon.[15] Connor Garel, writing for Vice, states that cancel culture "rarely has any tangible or meaningful effect on the lives and comfortability of the cancelled."[14] Danielle Kurtzleben, a political reporter for NPR, wrote in 2021 that overuse of the phrase cancel culture in American politics, particularly by Republicans, has made it "arguably background noise". Per Kurtzleben and others, the term has undergone semantic bleaching to lose its original meaning.[67]

Historian C. J. Coventry argues that the term has been incorrectly applied, and that it more accurately reflects the propensity of people to hide historical instances of injustice.[68] Another historian, David Olusoga, made a similar argument, and said it is not limited to the left.[13][c]

Indigenous governance professor and activist Pamela Palmater writes in Maclean's magazine that cancel culture differs from accountability; her article covers the public backlash surrounding Canadian politicians who vacationed during COVID-19, despite pandemic restrictions forbidding such behavior.[12] Former US Secretary of Labor Eugene Scalia says that cancel culture is a form of free speech, and is therefore protected under the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. According to Scalia, cancel culture can interfere with the right to counsel, as some lawyers would not be willing to risk their personal and professional reputation on controversial topics.[69]

Sarah Manavis wrote for the New Statesman magazine that while free speech advocates are more likely to make accusations of cancel culture, criticism is part of free speech and rarely results in consequences for those in power who are criticized. She argues that social media is an extension and reincarnation of a longer tradition of expression in a liberal society, "a new space for historical power structures to be solidified" and that online criticism by people who do not hold actual power in society tends to not affect existing power structures.

She adds that most prominent people who criticized public opinion as canceling still have highly profitable businesses and concludes by saying, "So even if you fear the monster under the bed, it will never do you harm. It can't, because it was never there in the first place. Repercussions rarely come for those in power. Why punch down, when you've already won?"[11]
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fuagf

01/08/23 7:56 PM

#434546 RE: B402 #434534

B402, "...and good intentions it started with..." Briboy - Evangelicals perfected cancel culture. Now it’s coming for them.

This month, Chis Hodges, senior pastor of Church of the Highlands, an evangelical congregation with 60,000 members spread across 24 locations, came under fire after screenshots were shared online showing the pastor liking several posts by Charlie Kirk, a controversial pro-Trump activist.
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The posts in question were considered racially insensitive and, among other things, questioned whether white privilege actually exists.

These actions sparked outcry from Birmingham residents, including the pastor of at least one black church who was already displeased .. https://www.christianpost.com/news/birmingham-pastor-slams-local-megachurch-as-racist-tells-blacks-to-get-out-of-white-churches.html .. that Hodges’ church has been planting white congregations in black neighborhoods to which they had no connection.

Hodges attempted to quell the furor by deleting his social media accounts and tearfully apologizing to his congregation, but Birmingham’s Board of Education, which leased two public high schools to the church, was unconvinced.

The board abruptly canceled .. https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/06/10/us/ap-us-pastor-social-media-backlash.html .. Church of the Highlands’ six-year lease, prohibiting the church from continuing to meet in the schools. The city’s housing authority also terminated a partnership under which the church provided various social services to residents.

Hodges had been “canceled” ...

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Throughout the 1980s and 1990s, church youth groups coordinated book burnings and music bonfires to purge their world of evil art. On any given night of the week, televangelists and Christian activists could be found on cable news attacking their enemies by name and blaming them for the “moral decay” of America.

Evangelicals tried their level best to smear and shame any person or organization who didn’t behave or believe appropriately in order to forcibly craft a society according to their Christian values.


[B402 -- "Never mind the way it got started, and good intentions it started with..."]

When the target of their wrath wasn’t vulnerable to their smears, they used the foremost tool of cancel culture: the boycott. In 1997, the 16 million-member Southern Baptist Convention boycotted .. https://www.nytimes.com/1997/06/19/us/southern-baptist-convention-calls-for-boycott-of-disney.html .. the Walt Disney company, which they perceived to be too gay-friendly.

Two years later, Jerry Falwell Sr., founder of the Moral Majority, famously led an effort to boycott .. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/276677.stm .. “The Teletubbies,” a children’s television program, because he got an inkling that its Tinky-Winky character was covertly gay.

In 2012, the evangelical group “One Million Moms,” part of the American Family Association, led a boycott .. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244174/Christian-mothers-boycott-JCPenneys-Ellen-DeGeneres-Christmas-ad.html .. of JCPenney after comedian Ellen DeGeneres, an out lesbian, was named the department store chain’s spokesperson.

White evangelicals’ “cancel culture” did not just target those outside the camp. If a member of the community dared to deviate from what the majority called “orthodoxy,” that person too risked being run out of town.

Beginning in the 1970s, a group of Southern Baptists, led by now disgraced preacher and seminary president Paige Patterson and other conservative leaders, sought to purge their denomination of any hint of “liberal theology.” Seminary professors, church employees and pastors lost their jobs or were shamed out of the convention during this denominational civil war.

Known as the “Conservative Resurgence” or “the fundamentalist takeover,” depending on your point of view, the coup Patterson led was a massive exercise of cancel culture. Only true believers allowed. Anyone who crossed the masses was expelled quickly and forcefully.


Rob Bell. Photo courtesy of Rob Bell

Beyond the SBC, one of the best-known examples of evangelical cancel culture involved the public shaming of author Rob Bell, a former megachurch pastor who dared to question whether non-Christians went to hell after they died.

[Seriously? These jerks sup on superstition as a newborn sups on a woman's teat. The latter is good for us.]

Strictly, Bell was not “canceled,” but “farewelled .. ” — the patent online move was simply to bid “Farewell, Rob Bell,” next to a link to his apostasy. Suddenly, anyone who was friends with Bell, owned books by Bell or even dared to quote Bell’s earlier work was at risk of being canceled as well.

Since then, other Christian writers, including Jen Hatmaker and Rachel Held Evans, found their books no longer welcome in Christian bookstores due to their support for same-sex marriage.

"Never mind the way it got started, and good intentions it started with..."

Good intentions. You are fucking kidding. You didn't know how it started did you. you just said it. That's how you operate.
Subterfuge. You say the Dems are engaged in it more than the Republicans are. That's part of your lie now. Suck on this:

conix, conix, Free Speech for Me but Not for Thee
"You support the suppression of Free Speech on college campuses and then you defend the Constitution? Can you spell --irony?"
Nowhere in his did zab say anything about his support for suppression of free
speech on college campuses. Yet again, an unwarranted sledge from you.
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The American right has lost the plot on free speech.
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