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BOREALIS

10/17/22 11:23 AM

#427105 RE: dodgedart #427099

Spoken like a true Trumpanazee

" long with made-up opinion pieces and make-believe articles. "Fake news" "

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blackhawks

10/17/22 12:09 PM

#427110 RE: dodgedart #427099

Man you do pack maximum projection into your shithouse rat crazy word salad rants.

You should rid yourself of any notion that you're not the dumb one. Conspiracy theory crap like this marks you as one credulous mfr...

"Along with Facebook, Twitter, CNN, the Washington Post and the New York Times, NBC is at the epicenter of the CIA-led mockingbird media, totally under the thumb of the globalist deep state, shilling for the technocratic beast system that’s being erected before our very eyes.

Below is your accurate description of the benighted residents of Trumpistan and NObody with critical thinking skills or even minimal ability to reason writes bat shit paragraphs like the one above and the one below.

And the libtards seem to be the "dumbest" of all with seemingly no ability to reason.

As long as it fits the narrative of the party line, it is accepted as fact without question, even with multiple sources from free thinkers, and a preponderance of evidence to the contrary.


Get yourself some new headgear, you f'ing nitwit.

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fuagf

10/17/22 5:41 PM

#427152 RE: dodgedart #427099

dodgedart, Your man Trump is the creator of your fucking "fake news" bullshit. Since Trump slithered into the political scene fact checkers have multiplied in an attempt to reveal the depth of his misrepresentation and lies. Despite his wannabe strongman attacks on main stream media (it's a trait of influential authoritarian figures), in fact the integrity of the American media has been a major influence in America becoming a powerful influence in the world. And it hasn't been by producing "fake news" as Trump and you so dishonestly push.

"Apparent ignorance of the absolute fact that most if not all of your sources fall in the category below.
Along with made-up opinion pieces and make-believe articles. "Fake news"
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You marked you credibility early. Every reliable source agrees election fraud is negligible. Yet you promote Trump's big lie

2020 Election Fraud Proof from Internet Sources
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170208858

Only now i see it looks you promoted that lie there through the infamous "Pillow Man" .. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/frank-speech-mike-lindell/ .

Another from as far right as you could possibly get ..
Pour Yourself a Drink, Patriot—the Democrat Party Is Crumbling
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You support Trump's no Russian influence lie:

"Ever since Donald Trump first declared his intention to run for president, the Democrats have been working hard to undermine him. Even though they knew it was a hoax, they spent years trying to prove that he colluded with Russia to steal the 2016 election. The farce carried on with two phony impeachments, and it now continues with the J6 Committee. After all this time, Democrats remain driven by their animosity toward Trump and will not give up."
P - The J6 Committee's Latest Hail Mary Is Proof of Its Illegitimacy
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Actually, in fact, Democrats have worked to expose him. To protect American democracy from
his onslaught. The impeachments were legit and for good reason. The Jan.6 Committee is legitimate -
The legitimacy of the Jan. 6 committee, explained .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170211232

You support the QAnon lie the Jan. 6 insurrection was a red flag

IT WAS ALL STAGED! Pelosi Brought in Daughter, Camera Crew to US Capitol Before the Riot, Son-in-Law Was Set Up Outside to Film
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As blackhawks told you in reply there the idea it was staged has been debunked multiple times. While it is our experience most probably trolls don't care about fact checks (many wouldn't bother to read them it seems), still to further the information on the board, one more here:

FactChecking Claims About the Jan. 6 Capitol Riot

By Lori Robertson

Posted on January 6, 2022


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The Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol was the culmination of months of false claims about election fraud, including a litany recited by then-President Donald Trump in a speech shortly before a mob stormed the building, temporarily halting the counting of electoral votes in a joint session of Congress.

On that day — and afterward — we debunked false, misleading and unfounded claims related to the events that day. Here is a summary of our coverage.


Trump supporters clash with police and security forces at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. Photo by Brent Stirton/Getty Images.

Trump’s Speech. In a rally near the White House, one year ago, Trump served his supporters a laundry list of bogus claims about election fraud in swing states. Then-President-elect Joe Biden had won the states of Pennsylvania, Georgia and Arizona, but Trump, as he had for weeks, made false statements about illegal votes being counted. We wrote about a dozen claims, including Trump’s falsehood that “66,000 votes in Georgia were cast by individuals under the legal voting age.” The Republican official who oversees Georgia’s voting system said, “The actual number is zero.”

Trump also claimed that somehow then-Vice President Mike Pence could initiate a process to overturn the election results and declare Trump the winner. While Trump was speaking, Pence released .. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErESrZQXcAIshEA.jpg .. a letter to Congress .. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErESrZNWMAAS0f9.jpg [it's in two parts in those two] .. saying he doesn’t have the right to do that.

“It is my considered judgment that my oath to support and defend the Constitution constrains me from claiming unilateral authority to determine which electoral votes should be counted and which should not,” Pence, who served as president of the Senate that day, said.

Many hours after Trump’s speech,[ at about 3:40 a.m. on Jan. 7, the electoral vote count ended, with Pence announcing .. https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/electoral-college-vote-count-biden-victory/ .. that Biden would become the 46th president.

For more, see “Trump’s Falsehood-Filled ‘Save America’ Rally ..
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/01/trumps-falsehood-filled-save-america-rally/ .”

The Lead-up to Jan. 6. Five days after the riot, House Democrats introduced legislation .. https://degette.house.gov/sites/degette.house.gov/files/ARTICLES%20-%20Final%20.pdf .. to impeach Trump, charging him with “inciting violence against the Government of the United States.” The resolution, approved by the House in a 232-197 vote .. https://clerk.house.gov/evs/2021/roll017.xml .. with the support of 10 Republicans, accused Trump of repeatedly issuing “false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials.”

We had been writing about such claims for months, and we compiled a sampling of Trump’s comments and actions leading up to the impeachment vote, starting with his April 7, 2020, comments .. https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-vice-president-pence-members-coronavirus-task-force-press-briefing-april-7-2020/ .. that “mail ballots” were “very dangerous” and “fraudulent in many cases.”

For more, see “Road to a Second Impeachment ..
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/01/road-to-a-second-impeachment/ .”

National Guard Deployment. National Guard members didn’t arrive at the Capitol on Jan. 6 until about 5:40 p.m., when most of the violence had already subsided. In a recorded video .. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHvlC8RRNNk&feature=emb_logo .. the following day, Trump claimed that he “immediately deployed the National Guard and federal law enforcement to secure the building and expel the intruders.” But that was contradicted by news reports citing unnamed sources who say Trump resisted efforts to bring in the Guard at the outset of the riot. In a Jan. 13 article, we chronicled what was known at the time about the Guard’s deployment.

For more, see “Timeline of National Guard Deployment to Capitol ..
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/01/timeline-of-national-guard-deployment-to-capitol/ .”

Blaming Pelosi. Over the summer, House Republicans tried to shift blame for the breach of the Capitol to Speaker Nancy Pelosi, saying she was “ultimately responsible for the breakdown of security.” But we found their arguments overstated the role of the House speaker in overseeing security of the Capitol and relied on speculation.

House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy suggested, without evidence, that prior to Jan. 6, 2021, Pelosi played a role in denying a request to use National Guard members at the Capitol that day. (Trump also pushed this idea in a Jan. 4 statement .. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/news/news-srmyqt7ufn0 .. this year.) Rep. Rodney Davis pointed to the fact that on the afternoon of Jan. 6, the House sergeant at arms sought Pelosi’s permission to bring in the National Guard as evidence that Pelosi was “calling the shots on all of their actions.” A Pelosi aide confirmed the request was made but said the speaker “expects security professionals to make security decisions” and that she only expects “to be briefed about those decisions.” The request also went to then-Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, and while both Pelosi and McConnell OK’d bringing in the Guard, the Department of Defense still needed to approve the move.

For more, see “Republicans’ Shaky, No Evidence Attempt to Cast Blame on Pelosi for Jan. 6 ..
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/republicans-shaky-no-evidence-attempt-to-cast-blame-on-pelosi-for-jan-6/ .”

How Many Died? In October, Democratic Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez tweeted .. https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1452459627187216388 .. that the Capitol riot resulted in “almost 10 dead.” There is reasoned debate about the number who died as a result of the riot. Ocasio-Cortez includes four law enforcement officials who responded to the Capitol that day and committed suicide in the days and months afterward and two rally participants who died of heart failure. Another rallygoer was initially believed to have been trampled to death but was later determined to have died of an accidental overdose.

We explained what is publicly known about the deaths of the nine people included in the congresswoman’s tally.

For more, see “How Many Died as a Result of Capitol Riot ..
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/ ?”

Unfounded Theory on FBI Informants. Another no-evidence claim is the idea that “unindicted co-conspirators” mentioned in federal indictments related to the Capitol riot are undercover FBI agents or informants, as conservative outlets have claimed or suggested. Legal experts and federal case law say that government agents and informants cannot be labeled conspirators to a crime.

During his June 15 Fox News show, for example, host Tucker Carlson, referencing a story from a conservative website, first said .. https://archive.org/details/FOXNEWSW_20210616_050000_Tucker_Carlson_Tonight/start/360/end/420 .. “potentially” and “almost certainly” FBI agents were involved, and then definitively declared that “FBI operatives were organizing the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6.” Republicans in Congress have pushed the unfounded theory as well, including Reps. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz.

Federal case law .. https://casetext.com/case/united-states-v-rodriguez-42 .. from the 1985 case United States v. Rodriguez acknowledged that “government agents and informers cannot be conspirators.”

For more, see “Conservative Outlets Advance Unfounded Theory About Capitol Attack ..
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/06/conservative-outlets-advance-unfounded-theory-about-capitol-attack/ .”

False Claims About Police. One social media meme spread the false claim that a Washington, D.C., police officer who responded to the Capitol breach was really part of the rioting crowd. The side-by-side photos show two different people who bear some resemblance to each other. Another claim that circulated on social media falsely said a video clip proves that “Capitol Police gave protesters OK” to enter the building. And other posts made the unfounded claim that Pelosi “won’t let Capitol Police testify about what happened Jan. 6.” In fact, on July 27, four members of the Capitol Police testified .. https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/january-6-house-select-committee-hearing-investigation-day-1-full-transcript .. at the first hearing of the Jan. 6 House select committee.

For more, see “Memes Misidentify D.C. Police Officer as Jan. 6 Protester
https://www.factchec k.org/2021/08/memes-misidentify-d-c-police-officer-as-jan-6-protester/ ,”
“Video Doesn’t Prove Capitol Police Allowed Jan. 6 Protesters to Enter Capitol”
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/05/video-doesnt-prove-capitol-police-allowed-jan-6-protesters-to-enter-capitol/
and “Capitol Police Expected to Testify During House Committee’s Probe of Jan. 6 Riot
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/07/capitol-police-expected-to-testify-during-house-committees-probe-of-jan-6-riot/.”

Impeachment Vote Sparks Misleading Democratic Ads. The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee used Republican lawmakers’ votes against impeaching Trump to claim eight lawmakers “stood with Q, not you,” a reference to QAnon, whose acolytes baselessly think a group of elite pedophiles runs the government and the entertainment industry. None of the targeted Republicans is known to be an actual supporter of QAnon, and three of them supported .. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-concurrent-resolution/5/cosponsors?r=9&s=2&searchResultViewType=expanded .. a resolution to censure Trump for the role he played in the attack on the Capitol.

For more, see “Misleading DCCC Ads Link Republicans to QAnon .. [out a bit here
While all eight members named by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee voted against impeaching Trump for a second time, three of them — Reps. Brian Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania, Don Bacon of Nebraska and Young Kim of California — supported a resolution to censure Trump for the role he played in the attack on Congress.]

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/02/misleading-dccc-ads-link-republicans-to-qanon/ .”

Bipartisan Report Didn’t ‘Single Out’ Trump. In the summer, a bipartisan group of four senators released a report on the security and intelligence failures related to the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol. All four — Democratic Sens. Amy Klobuchar and Gary Peters, and Republican Sens. Roy Blunt and Rob Portman — have previously said that Trump was at least partly responsible for the attack, but their report did not “single out” Trump “for inciting … the riots,” as a Facebook post from a liberal advocacy group suggested.

The report did not examine Trump’s role in, or fault him for, the attack. It was “limited in scope” and did not address “what motivated people,” Peters said.

For more, see “Facebook Post Misleads on Bipartisan Capitol Attack Report and Interview ..
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/06/facebook-post-misleads-on-bipartisan-capital-attack-report-and-interview/ .”

Some Protesters Were ‘Armed.’ Social media posts also misleadingly claimed the attack on the Capitol was not an “armed” insurrection, citing FBI testimony that no guns were seized from suspects that day. But 23 people were charged with having deadly or dangerous weapons during the assault — including a loaded handgun found on a man arrested on Capitol grounds. Other weapons included baseball bats, chemical sprays, a captured police officer’s riot shield, a crowbar, fire extinguishers and a metal flagpole. In legal terms, “armed” means being in possession of any weapon, not just a gun.

For more, see “Capitol Protesters Were Armed With Variety of Weapons .. https://www.factcheck.org/2021/03/capitol-protesters-were-armed-with-variety-of-weapons/ .”

Capitol Police’s Tampa Office. In July, the U.S. Capitol Police announced .. https://www.uscp.gov/media-center/press-releases/after-attack-future-us-capitol-police .. it would add field offices in Tampa and San Francisco to investigate threats against members of Congress, part of changes the agency was making in the wake of the Jan. 6 Capitol riot. Republican Rep. Matt Gaetz criticized the move, saying he was “increasingly concerned that our federal government and many elements within it are using these exquisite national security authorities to turn against our own people.”

An online Change.org petition .. https://www.change.org/p/ron-desantis-demand-the-immediate-removal-of-the-united-states-capitol-police-field-office-in-tampa?redirect=false , now with nearly 3,000 signatures, demanded the removal of the field office in Tampa, claiming it was created “in order to further investigate the events at the Capitol on January 6, 2021.” But a Capitol Police spokesperson told us that while many plans announced in the July press release were related to reviews of the events of Jan. 6, the plan for field offices long predated the Capitol riot. “The false narrative that this was created after the 6th to go after people who breached the Capitol, that is not accurate,” the spokesperson told us in a phone interview.

For more, see “The Facts on Capitol Police’s Tampa Office ..
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/the-facts-on-capitol-polices-tampa-office/ .”

All of our articles related to the Jan. 6 attack can be found here .. https://www.factcheck.org/issue/capitol-riot/ .

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https://www.factcheck.org/2022/01/factchecking-claims-about-the-jan-6-capitol-riot/
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fuagf

10/17/22 5:50 PM

#427153 RE: dodgedart #427099

dodgedart, Only one who has lost their way would say "And the libtards seem to be the "dumbest" of all with seemingly no ability to reason". Just so you know that is one of the favorite delusions of all the trolls who visit here. If you people are so smart you would never have considered voting for Trump in the first place...

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zab

10/17/22 5:59 PM

#427154 RE: dodgedart #427099

But everyone we know is working, and living the life they decide. You have to wait until your websites tell you what to do next.
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fuagf

10/17/22 6:02 PM

#427155 RE: dodgedart #427099

dodgedart, A survey revealed an "overwhelming majority of Republicans" believe Trump's stolen election lie. Yet you say

"As long as it fits the narrative of the party line, it is accepted as fact without question, even
with multiple sources from free thinkers, and a preponderance of evidence to the contrary.
"

Your reasoning ability would be good enough to be able to see how in saying what you said above you are flipping the situation around. See:

hap0206, Yep, 35 days away, and your post confirms my feelings about them are pretty much spot on.
P - "An overwhelming majority of Republicans still question the 2020 election results. They
are also more likely to vote for 2022 candidates who challenge Biden’s legitimacy.
https://www.usnews.com › News › Politics
"
P - That poll result clearly underlines just how terribly much the midterm result will be influenced
by misinformation and lies from your conservative side. Just as i felt on writing
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170127404

It's projection. Trolls here do it all the time.
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fuagf

10/17/22 6:08 PM

#427156 RE: dodgedart #427099

dodgedart, Psychological projection. In case you are not familiar with it..

Psychological Projection: Dealing With Undesirable Emotions

By Jennifer Beauman
Reviewed: November 15, 2017

Fact-Checked [outed here
All factual information in this story was reviewed by our editorial team to ensure that it was accurate and up-to-date at the time it was last updated.
Learn More[


Psychological projection is a defense mechanism people subconsciously employ in order to cope with difficult feelings or emotions. Psychological projection involves projecting undesirable feelings or emotions onto someone else, rather than admitting to or dealing with the unwanted feelings. Have you ever disliked someone only to become convinced that the person had a vendetta against you? This is a common example of psychological projection. Luckily, there are methods you can use to identify why you are projecting your emotions and put a stop to this coping mechanism.

Continued - https://www.everydayhealth.com/emotional-health/psychological-projection-dealing-with-undesirable-emotions/
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BOREALIS

10/17/22 6:49 PM

#427163 RE: dodgedart #427099

Republicans Own This Insurrection

Responsibility for the storming of the Capitol extends well beyond Trump.

President Trump is the architect of this insurrection, but so are his acolytes.

Donald Trump has been deformed and deranged for much of his life.
It has been the pattern of his life to lie and to cheat, to intimidate and hurt others, to act without conscience, to show no remorse, and to make everything about himself.


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BOREALIS

10/17/22 6:52 PM

#427164 RE: dodgedart #427099

Your HERO

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fuagf

10/17/22 6:58 PM

#427167 RE: dodgedart #427099

dodgedart, More true news for you - Jarring new footage, evidence Trump knew he lost:
Key takeaways from the latest Jan. 6 hearing


Video footage of Speaker Nancy Pelosi and other congressional leaders making calls for help on Jan. 6 was among the highlights of the Jan. 6 committee's final hearing before the election.

Oct. 13, 2022, 5:14 PM CDT
By Scott Wong and Sahil Kapur

WASHINGTON — While President Donald Trump was refusing to call off the mob of his supporters attacking the Capitol, Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and other congressional leaders leaped into action to try to retake control of the sprawling complex.

They called the secretary of Defense and the acting attorney general and urged them to send help. They called the Democratic governors of neighboring Virginia and Maryland to send National Guard troops and other police. And they got on the phone with Vice President Mike Pence to figure out how they could return to the Capitol that same night and finish certifying Joe Biden’s election victory.

“Oh my gosh, they’re just breaking windows, they’re doing all kinds of … they said somebody was shot. It’s just horrendous, and all at the instigation of the president of the United States,” a distraught but composed Pelosi says on a call to Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam in a video clip played during the Jan. 6 committee's hearing on Thursday.

“I’m gonna call up the effin’ secretary of DOD,” Schumer says in another video clip.

The jarring footage was among the highlights of Thursday's hearing — the last for the Jan. 6 committee before the midterm elections — which featured a deep dive into Trump's mindset as the events unfolded and ended with the panel voting unanimously to subpoena the former president for documents and testimony.

Here are some of the key takeaways:

Congressional leaders scramble for safety
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Trump privately knew he had lost

Publicly, Trump insisted he was being robbed of an election he won. Privately, he was conceding that he had lost, people close to him told the committee.


More - https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170192917

Bumped into it just now while reading through one holding a reply to mine i'll reply to soon. You should try reading around posts given to you.
If you were truly interested in learning more of the truth you would. But being sort of, if not actually, a QAnon person guess you wouldn't be.
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fuagf

10/17/22 7:27 PM

#427169 RE: dodgedart #427099

dodgedart, More real patriot news. This video is not of the sort you often see from James O'Keefe. It's not fudged or fiddled. And as you will see the 'patriots' actually do believe what they are doing is right. Likely as you do. They really do believe Trump's big lie that the election was stolen. Though the GOP i believe have accepted Trump lost it, this video is still more evidence just how heavily the midterm election result will be influenced by misinformation. The British filmmaker Alex Holder says in the video 'They believe what they are doing is right. They believe it with religious fervor.' That's a rough paraphrase. This is not fake news. It's real. You can see it. They believe what they are doing is right because Trump set it up for months with his lies about stolen elections.

Many votes will be cast in the midterms by voters who believe Trump's, and others' misinformation and lies. The video is here .. 06:35
https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2022/10/16/alex-holder-jan-6-capitol-insurrection-acostanr-vpx.cnn/video/playlists/this-week-in-politics/

Posted by BOREALIS, 8 hours ago .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=170214793
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BOREALIS

10/17/22 8:29 PM

#427188 RE: dodgedart #427099

Trump Sends January 6th Committee a Note from His Podiatrist

By Andy Borowitz
October 14, 2022

WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—Minutes after the congressional committee investigating the January 6th insurrection voted unanimously to subpoena the former President, Donald J. Trump responded by submitting a note from his podiatrist.

The foot specialist, Dr. Harland Dorrinson, indicated in the note that Trump’s chronic bone-spur issues, which had been asymptomatic in recent years, had suddenly “been acting up again.”

“This afternoon, Mr. Trump began experiencing unbearable pain consistent with bone-spur inflammation,” the podiatrist wrote. “For this reason, I cannot in good conscience give him permission to testify.”

The podiatrist’s note did not appear to discourage one committee member, Representative Liz Cheney, who volunteered to hoist Trump onto a luggage trolley and wheel him into the hearing room.

https://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/trump-sends-january-6th-committee-a-note-from-his-podiatrist