Replies to post #426959 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[zab]

In this forum you have no idea how fucking stupid you are with your daily rants how you don't like Americans. You know why no one wants to vote republican, Americans are tired of your preaching about everyone's right to be free, while you keep telling us that only you know how everyone should live. Then when you are in power you start taking everyone's freedom away, like abortion, or expression, or even in education when you don't want Americans to understand the struggles we have endured to keep those very freedoms. We fought a civil war and did away with slavery, women finally won the right to fucking vote after 150 years, civil rights was fought again in the 1960s to make America live up to those freedoms. You have not seen anything, we are going to do our very best to beat the shit about of assholes like you until every immigrant, every American can be free to define freedom. If you don't like than that's your fucking problem, America is about moving forward, not living in your version of what life means to you. We have seen your daily posts, your fucking insane.

[blackhawks]

I get why you and those you describe as being so angry with the 'educational system' are angry, considering how badly it failed you and so many other critical thinking impaired trolls who post here way back when there were no discussions about gender.

Your 'so young' description is not an accurate description of when any such discussions take place. Perhaps you can share where it even appears in the curricula for any grammar school?

The 'defunding the police' is NOT associated with any Dems in office or running for office. If you claim it is, then take responsibility for every shithouse rat level of cray that comes from the mouths' of the f'ing morons you need to win to take the House and the Senate.

What IS associated with the GOP is their support for the 1/6 treason weasels and their continued support, over 120 of 'em running this Fall, for the discredited, legally unsupported, 'stop the steal' bullshit.

Any pretext for GOP support for law and order is undermined further, daily, by the open support for Trump and the conspiracy theory misinformation he purveys and by the crimes he tries to conceal. Obstruction of justice charges on the docs is a slam dunk, espionage charges are also likely. There's a crime wave for you.

Also forget about any claims to a higher moral ground from the nitwits your support, those sailed away for the GOP long before the moral cowardice they displayed in supporting the most amoral and ignorant jerk to ever occupy the WH.

[fuagf]

conix, In your "In this bubble," you again confirm your superficial water-glider approach

conix, The country the whole world (virtually) would like to see a new nuclear deal
with. Again you confirm you are a superficial skating shrieker. You are a cheap shot.
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to about everything. There is no bubble in this internet-connected world of ours. You use the bubble insult here to build your ego. That's all.

"In this bubble, you have NO idea how angry people are with the educational system
teaching their kids about sexuality and gender choice when they are so young."

Much of that anger, we have shown clearly here, comes from
conservative misinformation and disinformation re the policies. See::

EXCLUSIVE: Survivors and experts blame negligence in sex-ed for assault
Failures in sexual education in schools have significant consequences, as has been evident these past few months.
Photo of Sheetal Singh Sheetal SinghWednesday, June 9, 2021

Chanel Contos, Brittany Higgins, and Grace Tame faced the price of these failures.
P - These three women could have led very different lives if sex-ed was diverse and inclusive.
P - Sexuality education isn’t easy; it’s complex and ever evolving. However, its current failures are too huge to miss.
https://www.school-news.com.au/news/exclusive-survivors-and-experts-blame-negligence-in-sex-ed-for-assault/

That's one on the Australian situation. And understand it is inarguable that in Australia there would have been even more sex
education than you would have seen in many conservative-oriented states in the US so same sentiments apply. STRIKE 1

"The Defunding the Police motto is associated with the Dems. And associated with the crime wave."

Much of the defunding the police angst is obviously down to conservative misinformation, disinformation and lies ..

rooster, No one here will forget your lies about it. Your misrepresenting defunding as reorganizing ..
2021 --- rooster, Reorganization would be a booster, rooster. A booster to better relations between any particular police force and their community.
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https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=169905052 .. STRIKE 2

To your credibility. You claim the tiny sample space you talk to is evidence of your superior credibility on issues USA.

"Too much to list her-but I bet I talk to more US voters face to face than you do, fuagf. You can "research" on the internet. But speaking to many people on how they do not like Trump, do not like the abortion decision by the Supreme Court etc., --they do not like Biden, inflation, oil dependency, expensive climate change focus, border "chaos" (according to Senator Mark Kelly (D) of Arizona.)"

Yes a number have left the GOP because they didn't like Trump. More are fed up because they are appalled at the extremist positions
taken on abortion, expressed in the so-called "heartbeat bills" of many states.

And there you go again on inflation and oil dependency. We have shown clearly here much of those misguided notions have been created muchly by conservative disinformation, misinformation and lies.

Inflation blame game: Sorting out the culprits
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Then what are you saying?
P - There's plenty of oil in the US. US companies are holding it off the market. The US government has noting to say about it... for now
P - What the president could say, is "use it or lose it". If one company won't drill, take the lease and give it to someone else.
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Noted, conix, you toss in the extra word "expensive" in your expensive climate change focus. You say that even with cost
of renewable energy sources coming down all the time. And even with better technologies as ever always on the horizon ..

This groundbreaking motionless wind turbine is 50% more efficient than regular turbines

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STRIKE 3

To your plaintive

"Now we are starting to hear the excuses here that it will be MISINFORMATION that causes the Dems to lose."

You say excuse. No excused on this board. Not about anything. Reasons, you bet. Reasons for whatever may be in the midterms YOU have pumped the result of for well over a year. A whatever result in the midterms will will be determined muchly by the crass and exceptional dishonesty of your GOP. Again:

conix, Whatever the result it will be disappointing for conservatives. Thanks in grandiose part to the conman you voted twice for. And whatever the result it will have been heavily influenced by the misinformation, the disinformation and the lies American conservatives continue to feed to American voters. And by your side's Taliban-friendly approach to the rights of American women. See --
[...]
conix, Political correctness. "Woke". Critical Race Theory. Now Kendi. The latest conservative/GOP whipping post. Policy? C'mon.
We just attack. Kendi has always been with the others on the conservatives dart board. Just more in the background. Some others
P - "Ibram X. Kendi is the false prophet of a dangerous and lucrative faith"
P - Gawd, false prophet. Which right-winger labeled him a prophet first?
Dangerous and lucrative faith. I didn't know Kendi was one of those
'money is good' Christian tv evangelists. You're right he's not. [neater now]
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P - The dishonesty now built into Trump's GOP and the terribly unsuitable senate candidates you have offered up. And the crass disrespect your deceit indicates you have for American voters. And your extremist attack on the personal rights of American women. Those and more will end with disappointment for American conservatism. That will be an irrefutable fact until the end of time. Midterm 2022 will always be remembered as a failure for Trump. For his GOP. And for you.
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To your -- "Just speaking to what I know. Sorry that I cannot offer anything on your expertise--Australian politics."

Seriously, conix, noted you had to finish your effort with cheap, gratuitous sarcasm. Was it really too hard for you to resist - again.

Are you really arguing Trump's GOP is not more calculatingly dishonest and misguided than earlier conservative administrations. Seriously? Ok

livefree_ordie, Most Republicans still falsely believe Trump’s stolen election claims. Here are some reasons why.
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That in itself demolishes your position the midterm result will not largely be determined by the dishonesty of your GOP.

[fuagf]

conix, Some in France can be more honest about woke than you have shown yourself capable of being thus far. Your bubble-bomb is as easily burst as was your claim misinformation would not be crucial if Democrats should lose any ground in the midterms.

"In this bubble, you have NO idea how angry people are with the educational system
teaching their kids about sexuality and gender choice when they are so young. "

What do you expect when principles of the most popular cable channel in America
cultivate their audience's multiple and diverse fantasylands by deliberately lying to them
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Related: conix, Political correctness. "Woke". Critical Race Theory. Now Kendi. The latest conservative/GOP whipping post. Policy? C'mon.
We just attack. Kendi has always been with the others on the conservatives dart board. Just more in the background. Some others
P - "Ibram X. Kendi is the false prophet of a dangerous and lucrative faith"
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How US 'wokeness' became a right-wing cudgel around the world

Issued on: 01/03/2022 - 01:30

Orlando (AFP) – With Covid-19 beginning to fade into the rear view mirror, the largest annual conservative gathering in the United States sounded the alarm this weekend over what they deem to be another fast-spreading virus: "wokeness."

Once a rallying cry for Americans to be alert to racism, "wokeness" has become the political term of the hour, co-opted by culture warriors to denigrate "political correctness" and leftist orthodoxy.

"The radical left is trying to replace American democracy with woke tyranny," former US president Donald Trump told the Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando, Florida during his keynote speech Saturday.

Speaker after speaker at CPAC invoked rightwing betes noires from "cancel culture" to the policing of pronouns. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis, a potential 2024 presidential hopeful, joined in the barrage of accusations, telling the crowd that "the woke is the new religion of the left."

The concept has metastasized from its US origins to penetrate the global body politic, from the English-speaking world to newsrooms, university boards and parliaments in Europe, Asia and South America.

"Among conservatives, wokeness is an all-pervasive ideology of extreme identity politics on behalf of minorities and women which is oppressive towards traditional cultural views," said Democratic political analyst Ed Kilgore.

The word "woke" as a means of describing enlightened skepticism over systemic injustice has its origins in African-American vernacular dating back before World War II.

A history of “wokeness” Absolute clarification of what "woke" originally meant.
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American linguist John McWhorter points to the music of US blues-folk musician Lead Belly, who can be heard imploring his fans to "stay woke" on the 1938 protest song "Scottsboro Boys." [Insert video]

It appears to have crept into mainstream parlance in the early-to-mid 2010s, as the killings of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and other African-Americans ignited a firestorm of protest from Black Lives Matter activists who beseeched followers to "stay woke" to racially-motivated police brutality.

Free speech

Its appropriation by liberal whites as a watchword for heightened cultural awareness followed soon after.

From there conservatives turned it into a slur, an accusation of superficial, over-the-top sociopolitical sensitivity or authoritarian, performative political correctness.

[...How Tucker Carlson became the voice of White grievance
[...]
Carlson’s rise has, not coincidentally, come about during a time of extraordinary political upheaval. His audience soared as Donald Trump was remaking the Republican Party around “America first” appeals that embraced further restrictions on migration and a turn away from America’s tradition as a land of immigrants. And the show thrived as the murder of George Floyd triggered a visceral debate over systemic racism, and after a pro-Trump mob stormed the U.S. Capitol.
P -Night after night, Carlson stokes resentment among his audience of nearly 3 million — which gave him the highest-rated cable news show in the most recent quarter — and the millions more who absorb his viral outbursts on social media. He blasts liberals, throttles Republican leaders whom he sees as insufficiently devoted to battling the “woke” left, and generally sets the parameters for the far-right anti-elitism that defines today’s GOP.
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In its new pejorative guise, the term spread quickly to Europe, particularly France, where "le wokisme" is seen by supporters of Eric Zemmour, a far-right election rival to President Emmanuel Macron, as a toxic, divisive US import.

In Britain, too, rightwing politicians have been pushing back against social-justice and LGBT activism, framing it as a threat to free speech and marker of progressiveness gone awry.

In the United States, "anti-woke" campaigners deplore politicians, CEOs and public figures who worry about cultural appropriation when they should be concerned with immigration, spiraling food prices and education.

A quick foray into Texas Senator Ted Cruz's Twitter pronouncements reveals he has used the word "woke" to call out the military, the news media, universities, Hollywood, the CIA, cartoons, Starbucks and even the sport of baseball.

Cancel the bastard - Briboy - Evangelicals perfected cancel culture. Now it’s coming for them.
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At the four-day CPAC, marketed this time around under the slogan "Awake Not Woke," Cruz joked about House Speaker Nancy Pelosi flying on a broomstick and mocked leftists badgering people to get vaccinated.

Meanwhile serious conservative priorities such as low taxation, free trade and a hawkish foreign policy took a back seat to scorched-earth rhetoric about an America suffering under the jack boot of Marxist political elites.

'Woke, government-run everything'

The Ukraine crisis came up here and there, but mostly just to be cast as a salutary warning about the excesses of political correctness.

"Woke weakness leads to things like we're seeing in the White House and what you're seeing around the world," former Wisconsin governor Scott Walker told attendees, while Senator Rick Scott warned of "woke, government-run everything."

Former White House advisor Steve Bannon lauded Russian leader Vladimir Putin for being "anti-woke," echoing the warm words of praise Trump and his chief diplomat Mike Pompeo had offered the former KGB spy.

[You see, conix, your oft-repeated plaintive plea that you don't support Trump any more doesn't go close to getting yourself out of the mud. ]

The issue is not exclusively party political. One is as likely to hear Democratic strategist James Carville or comedian Bill Maher rail against "woke" ideology, for example, as leading Republicans.

[Yeah well - In Defense of ‘Woke’
"A history of “wokeness”"
[...]Mostly, though, it’s used as a pejorative. Bill Maher seems to consider wokeness his personal albatross as he’s apparently blind to the paradox of getting paid likely millions of dollars a year to complain about what he believes he’s no longer allowed to say. Progressives have to be careful not to be so woke that we’ll scare moderates into voting for Donald Trump, warn (usually white male) columnists in every major American newspaper.
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And many critics of "wokeness" raise good faith concerns about over-medicalization of teen gender identity, zealous policing of language and the tendency to prioritize social justice over free speech.

This interpretation seems to chime with Middle America.

[Yes. Struggling under the hardships of difficult times and disappointment
many of middle America are susceptible to misinformation theses days.]

In November, ultra-conservative Glenn Youngkin defeated the Democratic frontrunner in Virginia's election for governor, in perhaps the biggest rejection yet of post-Trump political correctness.

During his campaign, the Republican Youngkin weaponized what he saw as performative outrage over America's racial history to cast himself as the man who would save the school curriculum from "critical race theory."

He won handily.

© 2022 AFP

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[zab]

It is called politics, Americans complain about everything, and for all of the bitching we still have a country that is moving an entire population forward.

You want everything easy, to know all of the answers to life's challenges, then go to fucking Russia or China, they tell you what you want to hear. You know what you are trying to do, and the rest of the tormented republicans who do not believe in the freedom of expression.