Really now, you never even knew they had $VEEE and $FRZA shares all this time. I know Tickers that have less and are valued much higher than where $TVPC is right now. Go on their boards and tell them that they are undervalued or whatever it is you like to do. So whatever logic or math works for you in your head, you go with that. Its your money you're posting on the line....... not mine.