Replies to post #24370 on The Rising Influence of Rising Affluence

[semi_infinite]

That sounds about right. Basic thermodynamics. I must have mentioned the Carnot cycle when people here debated about ICE theoretical efficiency years ago. Looks like it is still not well understood. It is actually less than that if the energy/emissions of production and refining fossil fuels are taken into account. Figure on roughly 1 unit burned to get 2 units of fuel. Worse for some sources such as tar sands.

[santafe2]

Don't shoot the messenger, I don't disagree with your point. While it's only one aspect of the comparison between electric and ICE vehicles it will be the one comparison everyone with a financial stake in moving the world to electric transportation will make. There is simply too much being invested for the finance, insurance and transportation industries to reverse course.

Five years ago it was still a political movement attempting to shame everyone into an electric / renewable future. For now, it appears they've won and I'm very interested in understanding which companies will most successfully make the transition and which new companies will break out.