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Spyke37

07/08/21 1:44 PM

#103281 RE: hedge_fun #103279

A simple answer is because the technology is an improvement to a much more overall complex product. They would need to become telephone manufacturers and compete with the same companies that are infringing. Much in the way that the gentleman who won the settlement from Ford on the intermittent wiper technology, couldn't really start a car company who was effectively the only reasonable customer. Hopefully that makes the point with tortured exceptions to what I am asserting notwithstanding.

Basically a relatively small inventor, hopes to use the patent system as a tool to be treated fairly by would be beneficiaries of their technology who are larger but whose products, and therefore competitive positions, would be improved by the small inventor's patented innovation.

The blatant infringement, both chokes off the reward for the inventor, while enriching and making more powerful the infringer.

Should VPLM prevail, this could create a bit of a change in the landscape and it appears that this case could be much more far reaching than a lot of us could have ever guessed.
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nyt

07/08/21 1:55 PM

#103283 RE: hedge_fun #103279

Really strange...your post does not or has not yet shown up on the opera mini browser I normally use but it does show up here on a later version of opera mini. Never seen that before.... Anyway, to answer your questions about you not understanding why anyone would be confused about your orig question, the answer is because it's confusing as to where you're coming from... In other words, I think that just about everyone knows, at this stage of the game, that allegedly, all Voip service providers use & infringe on the patents. And that there's no way around that fact. That was clearly stated by vplm years ago. You can hear it stated in one of their infamous "infomercials" (so called "conference calls").
So when you say: "If this POS has such great patented technology........then

WTF are they not putting it to use?", who is the "they" you're referring to? If it's the industry, like I said, according to vplm, all providers and users of Voip are using the core patents. But if you are referring to vplm themselves, in terms of "why are they not using?", well, also everyone here SHOULD know (especially from my posts about it) that when the great acquisition occurred, then for then during that time, vplm promised shareholders over & over & over, for nearly 2 yrs, that now that they had the technology, they would be immediately integrating it into their own (alleged) VoIP services platform, putting them as the king of the hill, in the Voip industry and to immediately begin collecting up to hundreds of millions of dollars per year in royalties. So there is why the question was confusing, as both vplm reneged on that promise and the Voip industry is said to be using the patents totally & continuously. In other words, your question then becomes rhetorical. Either everybody is using the patents OR, according to the accused, no one is using them. And according to me, no one is infringing on them because I think they are worthless!

I hope that cleared things up for you...

Of course, if the patents were "all that", they would've been purchased long ago and would be being used.
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Sheepdog

07/09/21 1:59 AM

#103291 RE: hedge_fun #103279

"Putting it to use" can cost hundreds of millions and take years. These are resources the established techies have....so they use it then mount a defense that they built it so the patent holder must just be a Patent troll.

Happens all the time....because it works enough to be very profitable on average.