You have to pretty much know the long history of NWBO and UCLA’s/Dr. Liau’s relationship. Dr. Liau was one of the first if not THE first to devise a DC Vaccine. However, Alton Boynton, one of the originators of NWBO was working on ways to commercialize these technologies in tandem and was involved in similar research. NWBO created the manufacturing process that could commercialize it and be able to make enough for a large multi country clinical trial. They own these patents and did all the legal leg work for all of it. It’s all in the patent history and you can do the searches, it’s all available to the public. I’ve been following both Dr. Liau and NWBO since the late 1990’s and started investing in 2007, so I have done a lot of research and speaking to the management for many years. NWBO owns DCVax outright. UCLA uses it only within clinical trials and it is the absolute same stuff as DCVax.