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[BullNBear52]

Not trusting politicians feeds to trusting fake populists as Trump. A person who says what he thinks. They think. Doesn't matter if what he says is true or not, they believe him. Doesn't matter whether or not he delivers what he promises, or the opposite. They believe in him. Similar to how so many believe in any God.

I'll agree with that. I did pick all the urban areas that Biden would win and knew it would be whether the rural areas could outvote them.

What surprises me is how many voted with their heart and not their wallet especially at the presidential level.

No stimulus, covid run rampant and no real healthcare plan to look forward to?

Belief in God is obviously a hope that there will be a better life afterwards.

Belief in Trump is completely different. And God does teach us not to lie. lol.

[B402]

Not trusting politicians feeds to trusting fake populists as Trump.

True but a small part of the equation...It is the decay of community over a period of time...Starting with personal wealth, which leads to community decay and along with its infrastructure..

In other terms or by metrics one can easily confirm, look at education, healthcare and wealth inequality.....How much have they declined over how many decades...

That is when you set up peoples tendency to follow what this Atlantic article considers counter-elites...

Its nothing new

From another post

The Next Decade Could Be Even Worse

A historian believes he has discovered iron laws that predict the rise and fall of societies. He has bad news.

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/12/can-history-predict-future/616993/

This is a must read to understand where we are today, why we are and what we face....

The moral of the story, not made or explored, is simple enough,,The hoarding of money and position is our down fall as the population grows....with no more room for new elites, people become counter-elites., they get the commoners who's standard of living continues to fail to follow them.......

Authoritarian take over of eventual collapse...

counter-elites.....The ones we say They Should Know Better..

(Also the note that the elites live in a bubble, they have no reason to want change and are so far out of touch they don't think its even needed,,,,Just our upper middle class is quite guilty of that too and have an elitist attitude of their own) They only show contempt and disparagement towards the working and rural classes which is why they are searching for leadership..

Just one exert

Elite overproduction creates counter-elites, and counter-elites look for allies among the commoners. If commoners’ living standards slip—not relative to the elites, but relative to what they had before—they accept the overtures of the counter-elites and start oiling the axles of their tumbrels. Commoners’ lives grow worse, and the few who try to pull themselves onto the elite lifeboat are pushed back into the water by those already aboard. The final trigger of impending collapse, Turchin says, tends to be state insolvency. At some point rising in­security becomes expensive. The elites have to pacify unhappy citizens with handouts and freebies—and when these run out, they have to police dissent and oppress people. Eventually the state exhausts all short-term solutions, and what was heretofore a coherent civilization disintegrates.

I can follow up with another Video with a well rounded perspective....