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Seems you can not, or will not, reply to "[you] suggest a path towards violence taken by others like you with Trump derangement syndrome."
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You words don't mention violence,
but they suggest a path towards violence,
to be taken by others like you with Trump derangement syndrome.
No, there wasn't. But there should have been, because it's a very big part of Trump's psychological makeup.
Sorry, but your method to evade the focus of my post was that undignified method used by those knowing that they don't have the intellect to successfully counter, that being, reply with a change of subject.
There was no mention of "fascinated by violence" in my post.
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Sorry, but it's your buddy Donnie who is, and always has been, fascinated by violence. Started out by throwing rocks at a baby. That was part of what got him sent to military school.
Yes, I'm sure Putin knows a lot about Trumpty's weaknesses. And has stuff on tape.
And I'll bet he has nothing at all on Putin.
You say that like it's a bad thing. I know COBOL, and many other languages. It works great for moving data to produce checks, the function of the treasury. Yes, there are more modern ways to do the same function, but they might come with usage and maintenance fees (SaaS). The new systems will be connected over the internet, vulnerable to attack, where previously our treasury was isolated, unhackable.
Which is better for the security of the United States of America?
Correct
You words don't mention violence,
but they suggest a path towards violence,
to taken by others like you with Trump derangement syndrome.
Maybe prime time for a 3rd Political Party to appear?
Two wrongs don't make a right.
But as in a war,
Democrats v. Republicans
or,
MAGA v. those of Trump derangement syndrome,
a January 6 type insurrection is necessary.
yes ?
What the.....I clicked on the YouTube Link expecting a Pee Video.....
🤔🤔 This would not surprise me and many others;
The video in question reportedly shows Trump in the presidential suite at Moscow’s posh Ritz-Carlton Hotel, watching two prostitutes pee on a bed the Obamas supposedly slept in. The incident allegedly took place in 2013, when Trump was visiting Moscow to attend the Miss Universe pageant.
https://www.thecut.com/2018/04/donald-trump-pee-tape.html
No doubt Putin has much more as well. Trump has left a lifelong trail of bullshit and wrong doings that in the right hands could be used against him.
He is truly Putin’s puppet on a string;
That's not good enough. Trump is outta control. Again, what does Putin have on him?
When you program in COBOL, you can be anyone who you wanna be. But I doubt you can be younger than 70.
Dems are just letting it play out for now - Mar 14 gov't shutdown.
Last night on MSNBC--I think on Stephanie Ruhle's show--Kara Swisher said Musk isn't all THAT smart.
I believe her.
Aw shit, I’m screwed. I’ve lied about my age all my life just to get jobs. I’m actually 131.
Trump Floats Kicking Millions Off Social Security
'Outrageous Lies': Claiming Fraud, Trump Floats Kicking Millions Off Social Security
"They are laying the groundwork for denying benefits to anyone they want to punish or deem unworthy—or indeed, any one of us," said the president of Social Security Works.
by Jake Johnson
Common Dreams, February 19, 2025
U.S. President Donald Trump launched his latest threat against Social Security on Tuesday under the guise of combating fraud, floating the possibility of stripping benefits from "millions of people" as Elon Musk's lieutenants infiltrate the agency that administers the nation's most effective anti-poverty program.
"The good thing about Social Security and what I read is if you take all of those numbers off because they're obviously fraudulent or incompetent... all of a sudden we have a very powerful Social Security with people 80 and 70 and 90 but not 200 [years old]."
"We have millions and millions of people over 100 years old" who are receiving Social Security payments, Trump continued.
The Republican president did not provide any evidence for his claim of substantial fraud in the Social Security program, which provides benefits to roughly 70 million Americans. Musk has similarly claimed, without evidence, that "tens of millions of people (are) marked in Social Security as 'ALIVE' when they are definitely dead."
Snip...
The Associated Press reported that "over the past few days, President Donald Trump and billionaire adviser Elon Musk have said on social media and in press briefings that people who are 100, 200, and even 300 years old are improperly getting benefits—a 'HUGE problem,' Musk wrote."
Continues...
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-social-security-fraud
When they lose healthcare benefits and there are no more vaccines for Covid, flu, RSV etc.
You'll enjoy this:
Trump Administration Reverses Plan to End Free COVID Test Program
The Trump administration changed course on Tuesday, deciding to keep the government's free COVID test program running, just minutes before the website, COVIDtests.gov, was set to shut down.
Earlier that day, The Washington Post reported that officials were preparing to end the program and possibly destroy tens of millions of unused tests worth more than a half-billion dollars...
https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2025-02-19/trump-administration-reverses-plan-to-end-free-covid-test-program
I believe you're right. But Pence deserves props for finally calling Trumpty out for lying:
https://x.com/Mike_Pence/status/1892271536394162229
As you can see, he did it at X. Good for him!
I am so sick and tired of Trump's constant lies. And he won't be stopping unless he's made to stop.
To "wake up and do something," as in a "January 6 United States Capitol attack" to stop Trump & Musk?
No, obviously. I don't advocate violence. But we need to find a way to remove Trump from the White House. Sucking up to our country's adversaries--as he's currently, and so embarrassingly sucking up to Putin--is just not acceptable.
What does Putin have on him, anyway?
The real difference Janice was that college bound/educated went after ROTC with a vengeance.
The population went after Nixon to stop the war and that population succeeded. But today, we have a very fractious population. The
Trump lovers love how he is tearing down the country. LOVE IT! They do not see chaos, only triumph. They believe the chaos will
simply disappear and fruition will replace it.
I don't know what's happened. But it's frightening.
Carville pointed out just last night that Federal workers will vote this coming November in Virginia for a new governor. He thinks the tide will
turn then. Not another nine months of this upheaval. Phuuuuuck!
I will be surprised if the idiots in Washington can patch Humpty government back again in record time.
Musk and his DOGE neo-Nazi teens have been firing tens of thousands of federal workers willy-nilly. The results have not yet been catastrophic domestically: utter chaos at national parks,
Firing a bunch of people from our National Parks Service I'm sure will save a bunch of money. Like Musk, Trump, their families and the geek squad have ever been to a National Park so they simply don't give a fuck.
This is not serious money. Cut the defense budget in half and cancel the delivery for new AF-1 s.
Hey bright boy it's a two way street.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
When it starts affecting them personally in the pocketbook. When they lose healthcare benefits and there are no more vaccines for Covid, flu, RSV etc.
When they call their republican reps that they voted for and no one answers the phone.
Unfortunately, the Trump and Musk supporters aren't listening to Rev Barber...
I don't expect them to. But he can rally people in NC who voted for Trump to think twice in 2026 especially since Tillis is up for re-election.
It has to be grassroots like the 50501 group. Build the opposition from the ground up.
W, Laura, Cheney, and Pence could make an impact.
They can chime in but Democrats need new blood.
Remember when GM was nicknamed government motors after the bail out and all the SUVs the government bought?
Now Tesla is selling $250M worth of armoured pickups to the government. GM has to be pissed.
Musk and Trump Are Causing the Dumbest Imperial Collapse in History
Empires have fallen before. But it’s never been this purely idiotic.
America suffered no military defeat. We were not outstripped economically by a bigger or better-organized competitor. Rather, we elected an insane tyrant who is blowing up the foundation of our international power for no reason, all while he lets a South African immigrant ultra-billionaire and his crew of teenybopper fascists tear the wiring out of the federal government—again, for no reason.
by Ryan Cooper February 19, 2025
Etienne Laurent/AP Photo
Demonstrators march holding posters during a rally to protest President Trump’s politics, on Presidents Day, February 17, 2025, in Los Angeles.
https://prospect.org/world/2025-02-19-musk-trump-causing-dumbest-imperial-collapse-in-history/
A month into the second Trump administration, I think it is fair to conclude that the American empire in its current form is collapsing. The post-1945 global order, with the United States at its apex, is no more. America itself is not going anywhere—at least not yet—but the foundation of the empire, namely its structure of alliances and partnerships, has been dealt irreparable damage. Western Europe, Taiwan, Japan, South Korea, and especially Canada now view America with suspicion if not outright hostility, and they are right to do so.
Now, the history of empires is the story of their rise and inevitable fall. As Herodotus wrote about Greek city-states, “most of those which were great once are small today; and those which used to be small were great in my own time.” But nobody has matched this current downfall for sheer egregious stupidity.
Indeed, it’s hard to think of even a single competitor for that title. There have been, to be sure, many idiotic imperial leaders throughout history who helped blow up their empires through bungling and mistakes. Tsar Nicholas II was an incompetent boob whose closest adviser was a charlatan mystic, and he personally led the failed military effort during the First World War that eventually destroyed his regime. Yet Russia bore only a small share of the blame for starting the war in the first place, and other much better-governed empires like Germany and Austria-Hungary, which shared much of that blame, also collapsed because of the war’s strains.
The eventual collapse of the Western Roman Empire began when a large Roman army was heavily defeated by Goths, who had adopted many Roman military tactics. The Eastern European Empire persisted for another thousand years, but it too eventually collapsed following military defeat at the hands of the Ottomans.
That is how empires tend to fall. Either they are defeated in battle, and are conquered or collapse, or they suffer a succession crisis and fall apart (both often enabled by corruption and mismanagement). Or they are simply eclipsed by another power, as happened when the British Empire fell short and the U.S. succeeded it.
President Trump, by contrast, was handed an empire in splendid condition. The core alliance of NATO was stronger than it had been in decades, as Russia’s war of aggression against Ukraine pushed Sweden and Finland to join. Thanks to President Biden’s policies, the American economy was the envy of the world, with a post-pandemic recovery that outstripped any peer nation. The dollar was still by far the most important reserve currency, and the U.S. still had control over global financial pipelines. https://www.ft.com/content/63712b6c-d4bb-48d6-8e92-d8119a999e92
No serious threats were on the horizon, either. In its war with Ukraine, Russia has burned through most of its gigantic stockpile of Soviet-era military hardware, taken perhaps 800,000 casualties, and put its economy under terrific pressure. China, while the only peer competitor the U.S. has faced since 1991, is saddled with deep economic difficulties and looking down the barrel of population collapse.
Trumpism strikes directly at the heart of American power projection: trust.
But Trump and Musk are blowing America’s imperial foundations to kingdom come. Take USAID, which as the largest distributor of humanitarian aid in the world, has both done a tremendous amount of good work and also served as a carrot for America’s global predominance—until now. The agency has been all but dismantled, unleashing havoc all over the globe. HIV and drug-resistant tuberculosis are now spreading unchecked in many countries reliant on USAID medication, both proving America cannot be trusted and threatening outbreaks of those diseases in the U.S. itself.
Both Trump and Musk have attacked NATO; Trump has reportedly said he wants to withdraw from the alliance, while Musk has said it “needs an overhaul” and he wonders why it “continued to exist.” More importantly, Trump has repeatedly suggested annexing Canada, a NATO member. The enormous implications of this threat are clearly not getting through to many American elites. At The New York Times, Peter Baker has a column blithely speculating about which way Canadians might vote should they be annexed, concluding that Democrats would likely benefit.
But this is not a political parlor game for Canadians. They are incandescently furious, and they are right to be. Canada stood shoulder to shoulder by America through the great bloodbaths of the 20th century. Since then, it has been a quietly loyal neighbor, making not a peep of trouble along the world’s longest land border, and providing a vast supply of energy, mineral, timber, and other exports to fuel the American economy. And this is the thanks they get: A senile fascist American president who suggests a war of conquest—and make no mistake, that is what it would take—because he wants to make America look big but doesn’t understand how the Mercator projection exaggerates the size of northern land masses—which, it’s been reported, is one reason for his coveting Greenland, too.
Baker’s witless speculation isn’t even correct. Canadians, if they got to vote under American occupation—a big if—would obviously elect a Canadian nationalist party.
NATO members and other partners go along with the American-led order because it has been a pretty good deal, all things considered. Rather than exacting imperial tribute, Europe, Japan, South Korea, and the others were encouraged to develop and become rich. In return, they allowed the U.S. to develop overwhelming military dominance, and played along with our control over the global financial system.
Threatening unprovoked war on a NATO ally for no reason destroys this trust—indeed, it makes clear that America is now a rogue state, led by erratic, violent madmen. Even Hitler felt he had to make up some lying pretext about German minorities being oppressed before he stole the Sudetenland from Czechoslovakia. Trump just saw a map and thought, “I’ll have that.”
Something similar is true of Trump’s threatened tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and Europe. We have pre-existing trade agreements with those countries—indeed, the one with Canada and Mexico was signed by Trump himself. Yet Trump will break his word on a whim.
Again, the lesson is clear: America cannot be trusted, and all its former allies should start preparing for the worst, including developing their own nuclear deterrents in case of war with the U.S. itself. Some reserve currency replacement must be found, and new supply chains not reliant on the U.S. set up. Crash military buildups must be carried out to replace American security guarantees. You’d be a fool to rely on any American promises whatsoever, including ones made by Trump or Musk. These men lie as easily as they breathe.
Now, should it annex Canada, Greenland, and/or anywhere else that catches Trump’s fancy, America would set up a new and different empire, much smaller and weaker, based around explicit violent threats rather than alliances.
But it also might just fall to bits. Musk and his DOGE neo-Nazi teens have been firing tens of thousands of federal workers willy-nilly. The results have not yet been catastrophic domestically: utter chaos at national parks, an apparent sharp increase in airline crashes, and other problems.
But the DOGE Muskjugend recently illegally fired many of the workers who secure America’s nuclear arsenal, apparently by accident, and they are rooting around in the IRS and the Social Security Administration (prompting the head of the latter agency to resign), which hold much of the most sensitive data in the government. It’s not hard to imagine this going world-historically bad.
America suffered no military defeat. We were not outstripped economically by a bigger or better-organized competitor. Rather, we elected an insane tyrant who is blowing up the foundation of our international power for no reason, all while he lets a South African immigrant ultra-billionaire and his crew of teenybopper fascists tear the wiring out of the federal government—again, for no reason.
Just checking.
"What I'd like to know is how much most people are willing to take before they wake up and do something. What will bring all this to a head?"
What is the meaning of the idiom a head?
The idiom 'to come to a head' means 'to reach the point of a crisis.'
To "wake up and do something," as in a "January 6 United States Capitol attack" to stop Trump & Musk?
If so, then that's just another attack on the pillars of American democracy.
But then, it would be justified by those with Trump derangement syndrome.
just saying
I guess he could declare martial law and suspend Habeas corpus.
What I'd like to know is how much most people are willing to take before they wake up and do something. What will bring all this to a head?
Unfortunately, the Trump and Musk supporters aren't listening to Rev Barber...
What do W and Laura think about what is happening?
Whatever it is--and I do believe they're appalled by Trump--they don't have the balls to talk about it.
Yes, I saw that. Just pathetic. These people aren't even capable of behaving like adults.
You're supposed to be confused. Flood the zone with sh*t so that you don't notice your freedom and privacy being eroded.
I watched Elon talking via video at a Middle Eastern AI conference where he basically said that American government infrastructure is broken, and that America needs to mind its own business. It was not appropriate.
I found that rich after both he and Vance gave "pro-extreme right tolerance" speaches in Germany. AND, Canada, Mexico, Greenland, Panama, Gaza, Ukraine... so, minding our own business only means abandoning our closest friends and allies in Europe and on our borders, so that we can behave like their most threatening enemy.
Mind blowing.
I tried to add the YouTube link, but it won't work. Search for this.
"Elon Musk-led DOGE Plans To Replace Humans With AI Tools For Jobs"
Imagine a rally led in unity by all former presidents, vice presidents, and their spouses.
W, Laura, Cheney, and Pence could make an impact.
Cheney and Pence would be easy to recruit. What do W and Laura think about what is happening?
It's W's chance to go down in history for something good. IMO
This just out...."breaking news, and all that"....So Elon is not really heading up Doge, but "overseeing it" and no-one knows yet who is running it,....sort of like that old saying...."I'm not really here, I just stick around for my friends"....and on another note POTUS is against Electric powered vehicles in Nascar, which is contrary to what Nascar see going forward, and Elon is, or was pretty keen on Electric, even if his Tesla's keep heading off the road all by themselves and killing people.....I'm confused
Who else went through about the 1967-1974 era - I would say things felt as equally precarious back then as now.
I did, and I'd extend that back to around 1960. The Kennedy assassination was traumatic. The civil rights movement was dangerous and bloody in the early '60s as well as in the late '60s. And then came Vietnam, the horrific '68 election, and the prize we got for our efforts: Richard Nixon.
But I think that perhaps because we were young, we were hopeful. We believed our generation could bring about meaningful change that would help everyone.
Sad to say, we failed in that. With the election of Reagan, things got worse. But we DID and DO have the BEST MUSIC!!
Let's remember how Dumpty tried to get soldiers to fire bullets at the legs of DC protesters.
Yes but I was no longer interested so I simply moved on to Scion's board and a new friendship developed. After he passed away I managed to become the moderator and kept the board the way he wanted.
I see you're up to the same BS just a different year.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175782276
In response to that crap.
So now your going to tell young smart college graduates they are prices of shit if they weren't born into money with daddy at the helm........
You dumbasses don't know when to quit...the young have heard you loud and clear too......even a doctorate would be good enough for if you were still in power....?
You might want to revisit what you said. My son is not a piece of shit. He was not born into money. And he doesn't have a doctorate degree.
What I do know is he works for a Fortune 500 company and at 25 he is well invested in the stock market and works 6 days a week. BTW he has a better understanding of English than you.
Those were amazing and heady days
I thought it was JimLur who created TA. He is still around.
Not sure who created it. F6 was the moderator when I started following the board and at one time I was one of his assistants. He had a deal with Ihub to keep it as a free board. Most of my interaction with him was via PM discussing a wide variety of topics. Politically we were on the same page just felt differently about some of the more outrageous posts on TA. Anyways I quit as an assistant but we kept in touch via PM and had many friendly chats. Sadly he passed away tragically and I chatted with his sister also via PM. He was one of the good guys that I got to know here on Ihub.
I'm glad to see Barber back in action.
Rev. Barber at the Capitol: ‘The president is not a king’
February 12, 2025 9:53 AM CST By Mark Gruenberg
WASHINGTON—There was an unusual speaker with a straightforward message amid the parade of lawmakers and union officials marching to the podium near the U.S. Capitol on February 11 to support embattled and endangered federal workers: The Rev. William Barber II.
What the Poor People’s Campaign co-chair said was quite succinct: “The president is not a king.”
“A president is not a dictator unless we let him be a dictator,” Barber preached.
“We stand with the workers, and they”—Republican President and oligarch Donald Trump, his multibillionaire puppeteer Elon Musk, and other oligarchs who support and plan to profit from the duo’s actions—“are fighting hard against us because they’re scared.”
“You can’t bow, I can’t bow. This is the time to take a stand,” Barber declared.
I guess he could declare martial law and suspend Habeas corpus.
It's time to join 50501
https://www.fiftyfifty.one/
50 protests.
50 states.
1 movement.
Join us in the fight to uphold the Constitution and end executive overreach.
The People will take it back. A stronger Left will evolve, is evolving now. There is so much of a firehose of information and perspectives I cannot keep up with it. RichardDWolff and Meidas (MeidasTouch) several of many. Bloomberg pretty reliable and straightforward for a macro Worldview. We are fine but may experience a transition or reset of sorts. Who else went through about the 1967-1974 era - I would say things felt as equally precarious back then as now.
I thought it was JimLur who created TA. He is still around.
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