Well, I only have my own holdings and entry amount to go on. It was an analogy. So the PIERS didn't make a deal after POR 6? I thought that was the whole reason we're still here talking about it, no? I thought the PIERS had a FV of 50 bucks. I do know something really wrong was done here and I wanted to be a part of it and I am. I bought positions in all classes so I would maybe be included in the eventual settlement, and so far it has been a profitable decision, and if AZ & others are correct in their analysis of the process, it be way more profitable than I could have imagined. So, I really don't care so much exactly where or how we're gonna get satisfied only that we're gonna...as that is fair. jmo