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mtgman27

12/21/06 11:38 AM

#223028 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Off the phone with "the company" or Petar?

spaceheater

12/21/06 11:38 AM

#223029 RE: S.A.G. #223023

You and Hog go for it. It will help imho.

uw86

12/21/06 11:38 AM

#223030 RE: S.A.G. #223023

airys: simple question; specifically why are attys holding these up?--thanks again for everything

War_Eagle215

12/21/06 11:38 AM

#223031 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Yes, I agree.

Good Luck

boogaloo

12/21/06 11:38 AM

#223032 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, Did you ask them why their lawyers won't allow them to PR things that they claim are real? What is the problem or hangup? Why would a lawyer gag them from PRing real business? I don't understand that part.

Thanks for the info/update.

FattyMcButterpants

12/21/06 11:39 AM

#223033 RE: S.A.G. #223023

PLEASE GO AND GET SEE!!!!!!
i think i love you man. jk...but i will certainly buy both you and HOG a cheesesteak for your efforts.

pocket.change

12/21/06 11:39 AM

#223035 RE: S.A.G. #223023

if you guys can make the time, i support the idea.

InvestorOtter

12/21/06 11:39 AM

#223036 RE: S.A.G. #223023

That would make me VERY happy! Will you guys go? It is the holidays and that is a lot to ask. You have my trust and support for whatever you decide! Thanks so much for the update!

jupiler

12/21/06 11:39 AM

#223037 RE: S.A.G. #223023

"I get the feeling that we are all in for a big surprise"
same here feeling here

jake8812

12/21/06 11:39 AM

#223038 RE: S.A.G. #223023

I believe you are an honest person but how can they show that info to an investor brfore it is released to the public? Can they do this, they need to explain why the lawyers have a gag order on them.

FrankieJ

12/21/06 11:40 AM

#223043 RE: S.A.G. #223023

With you 100% Airys. Why not take Sandbath, he's looking for justice.

rookeeper

12/21/06 11:40 AM

#223044 RE: S.A.G. #223023

ROTFLMAO.......................

Supergarvis

12/21/06 11:41 AM

#223045 RE: S.A.G. #223023

THANK AIRYS $$$

allspice

12/21/06 11:41 AM

#223047 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Wake up! If the lawyers can't allow the release of the information through PRs yet but Petar let's you see the substance of any future PRs, you are an insider! And the very idea that you will then relay what you see here, double crossing the co's legal team, makes no sense whatsoever and gives off the impression that the right hand of Sulja is unaware of what the left hand is doing. This is MADNESS!

JMHO.

Calc

12/21/06 11:41 AM

#223048 RE: S.A.G. #223023

It's ano brainer, if you have the time. A picture is worth a thousand words.

msskinny

12/21/06 11:43 AM

#223056 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys - why won't they take phonecalls from any of the rest of us? If this is true - why don't they have an IR team taking phonecalls from investors? Why is this information limited to you and Hog? I'm sorry, but this is all very troubling. And why would the attorneys be holding the PR's? unless there was some legal reason to hold off - here are some reasons that I can think of - 1. The PR's are not true; 2. They are being investigated by the SEC. Neither of these scenarios are good - can anyone else come up with another reason?

simistugots

12/21/06 11:44 AM

#223063 RE: S.A.G. #223023

i trust you airy's
and i still believe in the company i mean really
i have nothing else to lose but i do trust you

johnbell10

12/21/06 11:44 AM

#223067 RE: S.A.G. #223023

good luck to you,it's interesting how easy you can communicate and i can't even get a call back.john

cfoofme

12/21/06 11:45 AM

#223069 RE: S.A.G. #223023

That would be ok Airys but the obvious (to most astute investors) fact is the lawyers are holding back for one reason: they are paid to keep the company out of legal trouble and IMO they (lawyers) see trouble (for company)if PR's are released.

rookeeper

12/21/06 11:45 AM

#223070 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys418 - Are you really sure that you want to SEE a PR

in advance of the public release?

I think YOU need to think HARD and FAST about that!

You are getting in OVER your HEAD

gdb81

12/21/06 11:45 AM

#223071 RE: S.A.G. #223023

It's not so much what it will bring to the board as whether or not you feel it will give you a solid experience.

If you trust the company to be upfront with you and provide you some amount of due diligence, go for it.

Unless the plane ticket is expensive, I would kindly refuse their offer to fly you in, and instead pay for it yourself. The nature of your relationship changes once you start receiving compensation in kind for IR duties, and technically a free plane ticket could be considered such.

skinsmoney

12/21/06 11:46 AM

#223073 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Attorneys provide advice and counsel and act on your behalf in the role of an agent, you are the principal. What control do these lawyers have? None. If Steve, the CEO, believes that it is in the best interest of SLJB to release the PRs than he should do. Sounds like Steve and Petar are passing the buck again just like it was the Windsor Star's fault that the PPS crashed on November 16, it is now the attorneys' fault that they cannot release any PRs. Come on folks.

nhsidelines

12/21/06 11:46 AM

#223074 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Go for it!

jk21

12/21/06 11:46 AM

#223075 RE: S.A.G. #223023

hell yeah. book that flight and definitely charge it to PV himself!

bagsadollars

12/21/06 11:46 AM

#223076 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Any clue as to when the lawyers will give "permission" to start release the PR's.

frenchy

12/21/06 11:47 AM

#223080 RE: S.A.G. #223023

You and Hog both sold shares. Shareholders are paying for this trip.
For that reason I would suggest that a 3rd person be sent. One that can be voted in by this board, someone can setup an Ihub survey for everyone to decide.

MrGoodBuddy

12/21/06 11:51 AM

#223099 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, I appreciate your efforts here but I dont think it is such a grand idea. It is starting to put you and Hog in a bad spot and is only adding to the confusion IMO. You and Hog are probably good people, but you are not auditors and people that should be confirming stuff that may just simply be smoke and mirrors.

I dont mind if you get a free ticket and vacation, but I think it would be best if you did not relay any information about the visit since it just simply puts you out on the limb.

Again, I am not dissing you and HOG but I think we are being naive to think that they dont control the lawyers. Not the other way around you know?

Thanks again.

bleep1

12/21/06 11:53 AM

#223107 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, thanks so much for your continued efforts,

but (always a but involved in a complement/lol):

What good does it do for the pps when info can only be released to you and stock hog.
No offense to you guys but the market reacts to proof and verifiable proof at that.

If the pr's that they have to release are the truth and can be verified, there should be no, and I repeat no reason why they aren't released.

The only time a lawyer will advise you to remain silent is when you will increminate yourself.

The main concern everyone has, whether they like the SLJB Mgnt or not, is an increase in the pps, and a maximum increase at that.

Yours and Stock Hogs looking at documents will in no way make this happen!

What are your thoughts?

Thanks again!

SloJon

12/21/06 11:53 AM

#223110 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys418~Be careful...


If they're at odds w/ their lawyers, you can bet there's a reason. Circumventing lawyers to assuage shareholders puts you in a precarious position...to say the least. Rather than focus on contracts, etc., may I suggest you ascertain...beyond doubt...what the foundation of the lawyer's protests ACTUALLY constitute? The answer to THAT query will reveal what's really going on.


John L.

frenchy

12/21/06 11:53 AM

#223112 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Do you think Petar could compromise with the lawyers ?

Instead of releasing a PR, have the Transfer agent mail out some documents to all the registered shareholders...
Just a idea.

zackihub

12/21/06 12:00 PM

#223146 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys418 Exactly Who is the Company ? Petar ?, Steve ? or a Combination of, or none of the above ?

Airys in all sincerity, this is the strangest situation/need to prove/ between a company and shareholders I have every heard of. Like everything else, it doesn't smell clean at all.


zackihub,
a SLJB investor with great concerns about this company's ethics and intentions.

cesar101mi

12/21/06 12:02 PM

#223152 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, I could drive over there tomorrow morning and verify it. Not sure what it would do. They are paying the lawyers, why don't they call them and do something about it.

In any case I would be willing to pick you up at the airport and take you there. I'm out 70G on this and want to see this come back.

feel free to contact me.

cesar

4gemz

12/21/06 12:09 PM

#223171 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, I would appreciate your efforts in this endeaver. I would like to see you make this trip, provided you have the time.
It is my experience that anytime lawyers are involved in a task they slow things down 10 fold.
Good luck whatever your decision may be.

4gemz

janeverite

12/21/06 12:10 PM

#223177 RE: S.A.G. #223023

I think you should go. By asap...what does that mean.

But if you go..what we need is two things:
What is the problem with the lawyers and when will it be resolved. By the sounds of this conversation, they are saying that the lawyers could hold things up for awhile - that is not okay and unacceptable.

Your thoughts?

bizzyboy2

12/21/06 12:14 PM

#223187 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Go,,I believe you and H.O.G., and don't believe any of the posters here who are hell bent on being trouble makers. They are the scam,,They are the reason for a continuation of nervousness plaguing so many board members. If Sulja is willing to pay your expenses to personally view documents, then they must have some,,,,,GOOOOOOO for it, and God Speed!
biz

ChrisJP

12/21/06 12:28 PM

#223225 RE: S.A.G. #223023

lol wish I could go with ya.

I'd luuuvvvvv to see what they show you.

My advice is -- anything they show you -- look for a name address and a phone number of the contracting firm and CALL THEM RIGHT THEN AND THERE.

Chris

domain311

12/21/06 12:32 PM

#223237 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys,

Damn thats crazy...but it means something if they are willing to go that far as to fly you both up there to see for yourselves. We need answers and it seems you are making some waves...so that is greatly appreciated.

By all means, if you are willing to take the time to go up there, that would be great. I trust both of you with whatever you see and are able to report back.

If its true that the lawyers are holding it up, it makes me feel a little better considering we are playing the waiting game again, after last weeks PR.

Thanks for all the effort and your own time you have put forward with this and all the info you have shared.

4gemz

12/21/06 12:41 PM

#223261 RE: S.A.G. #223023

All of the investers would like to see some transparency from the company. I feel pretty good that 2 investers that I trust are being allowed to see some transparency.

4gemz

zackihub

12/21/06 12:52 PM

#223288 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Let the S.E.C. review the information. Why would anyone believe preview PR data from SULJA after the complete breakdown and dismissal of Key, Critical,and portfolio building type PRs (like the $25m Loan arrangements by Wessal,Audited Financials, Cement deals etc.) from SULJA.

Again Airys, Please, who is "the Company" you just got off the phone with ?

This is the strangest situation between a company and shareholders I have ever been involved with or heard of.

Like everything else... this doesn't smell clean at all!

Let the S.E.C. review the information for Airys, Stock H.O.G. oh yeah and let's not forget the Investment community (us shareholders!)


zackihub,
a SLJB Investor with great concerns about this company's ethics and intentions.

cheerfuldave

12/21/06 12:57 PM

#223302 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Couldn't they simply pr that they are waiting on lawyers?

ed53wa

12/21/06 1:02 PM

#223308 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, I'd like to go. I got plenty of free airline miles

zackihub

12/21/06 1:30 PM

#223368 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, again I am asking... who is 'the company' in your post ? This is really strange.... Please Airys, who is "the company" was it Petar, Steve, Lawyers, BOD types or what ? Like I said earlier...this whole think doesn't smell good at all!

Myself and others truly believe it would be best to let the S.E.C. see these PRs that SUlJA's Lawyers won't let them release.

What a Farce sounding situation!!...Just like all the other PRs, Date Certain AFs, $25m financing, $350m cement deal, Dubai design centers, Wessal buying 25% on open market, etc. etc. etc
WHAT A FARCE!



all IMHO,
zackihub,
a SLJB investors with great concerns about this company's ethics and intentions.

joelotto

12/21/06 1:31 PM

#223371 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys418....Can you call SLJB back and ask why the lawyers have the right to hold back factual material events. Is Steve running the company or the LAWYERS. To me this sounds just like the AFs are in hand and a couple changes need to be made and they will be released......only to find this was untrue.

Just think about it.....some/most of the past PRs look to be nothing but a lie and now they have real ones that they are willing for you to look at but can't release them for any logical reason.

Airys418.....I think you should tell them that you will go and look at these PRs but you want to see who the contracts was with and have Petar or Steve call while you listen and verify without a doubt that the PRs are true. But to me this Lawyer thing sounds fishy.

johnbell10

12/21/06 1:39 PM

#223377 RE: S.A.G. #223023

why is the attorney holding these PR's?

fringe_remnant

12/21/06 1:42 PM

#223383 RE: S.A.G. #223023

If Your Credibilty Is Limited

'compared to PR's from the company' maybe you should stop while you are ahead.

fringe

ibreken

12/21/06 1:49 PM

#223393 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Holy crap, man, don't you get tired of being Petar's new pump toy? He's now using you and HOG to relay his lies. Don't you see what is being done? Ask him how he affords to drive the cars he drives next time you see him. What exactly is his source of income? You don't want to know the answer.
Why do you suppose lawyers won't let him release PR's? Because they know the law maybe??? My God man, use your head for once in your life!!!! BTW, Merrrrrry Christmas!!!!!!


getgreen

12/21/06 2:04 PM

#223417 RE: S.A.G. #223023

It would be nice if you & hog can go. Thanks again

Tuslog28

12/21/06 2:37 PM

#223461 RE: S.A.G. #223023

if the held-up PR's are like all of the other PR's that have been put out then Petar and Steve, et. al. have some smart lawyers imo.

ichjw

12/21/06 4:00 PM

#223658 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Go for it

alwaysup

12/21/06 4:24 PM

#223711 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, when are you planning on going up to Windsor? Did P V say why the lawyers would stop him from releasing PRs. If they are true, why would they stop them? this doesn't make sense to me.

marianothis

12/21/06 7:30 PM

#223836 RE: S.A.G. #223023

airys,
are you kidding me? the attorneys are holding things up? why are the attorneys involved? who hired them? why are they in that role? to protect us? lol.
this company just gets funnier by the day. the attorneys weren't forced upon sljb. if sljb wanted to, they could fire them. please don't say the pr's will have more credibility because it came from an attorney!!! some of the biggest liars i know are attorneys, especially with $$$$ around.
airys, the reason the company wants you to visit them is because you remain gullible imho.
glty anyway,
buddy

Jerry1956

12/22/06 6:47 AM

#224069 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, Sounds great look forward to that thanks. Good luck.

Wheat from the chaff

12/22/06 8:25 AM

#224081 RE: S.A.G. #223023

DON'T DO IT! Refusing this is the only pressure we can put on them to do it through PRs. I think you guys would be putting yourselves at incredible personal risk. Certainly, at minimum, please consult a lawyer before you go.

While I hate the radio silence, this is not the right process to establish for releasing information.

Dennisb68

12/22/06 8:46 AM

#224092 RE: S.A.G. #223023

The lawyers won't allow thm to release the info. to the public by way of PR's but they can release the info. to a few shareholders? That doesn't make sense!! Until it's information released to the public it's insider information. This isn't anything new with this company because over the last several months every time they are going to release a PR they use the excuse the lawyers won't allow it. Soon those PR'S are forgotten and we are promised new PR'S that the lawyers won't allow them to release. If they truly have PR's that the lawyers won't let them release maybe it's because the PR's aren't truthful. I honestly don't know how anyone can believe ANYTHING this company says anymore.

StocksKC

12/22/06 12:43 PM

#224414 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys

"You have been told that company have numerous PR's ready to put out but the lawyers are keeping them from releasing them"

Why lawyers are keeping them from releasing them????--we should ask this question to them---

why cannot we recieve an explanation from SS stating the delay, we have a right to know?? His silence is incredible---we are not going anywhere other than assuming the things.

My opinion(again assumption) is that management want this pps to be held down for thier own personal reasons so that they can buy more at low before PRs--
OR
this is not but (again assumption) an empty shell--

Please ask them about Why lawyers are keeping them from releasing them??

Thanks

dshade

12/22/06 1:07 PM

#224440 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airys, go for it. also please clear up the Andrew DeVries/Kore/NV/fax blast BS once and for all, if you can. that would be enough along with your proof of contractual commitments and an audit perhaps. thanks for your efforts.

bagfull

12/22/06 1:11 PM

#224448 RE: S.A.G. #223023

Airsys,

Also check our when they are releasing the Audited Financials