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04/14/20 10:15 PM

#161975 RE: blackhawks #161936

Actually since

"Grandiosity is the defining characteristic of narcissism. More than just arrogance or vanity, grandiosity is an unrealistic sense of superiority. Narcissists believe they are unique or “special” and can only be understood by other special people. What’s more, they are too good for anything average or ordinary. They only want to associate and be associated with other high-status people, places, and things.

Narcissists also believe that they’re better than everyone else and expect recognition as such—even when they’ve done nothing to earn it. They will often exaggerate or outright lie about their achievements and talents. And when they talk about work or relationships, all you’ll hear is how much they contribute, how great they are, and how lucky the people in their lives are to have them. They are the undisputed star and everyone else is at best a bit player.

Lives in a fantasy world that supports their delusions of grandeur

Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking. They spin self-glorifying fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, attractiveness, and ideal love that make them feel special and in control. These fantasies protect them from feelings of inner emptiness and shame, so facts and opinions that contradict them are ignored or rationalized away. Anything that threatens to burst the fantasy bubble is met with extreme defensiveness and even rage, so those around the narcissist learn to tread carefully around their denial of reality."

https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm

And since

Grandiose narcissism is associated with "overall greatness," says the study, published in Psychological Science.
It's also linked to being persuasive, good at handling crises, and taking charge of the agenda.
.. your link - https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/11/17/newser-lyndon-b-johnson-president-grandiose-narcissism/3618507/

with your

Or, as in the case of Trump, It's linked to exactly NONE of that. So I take narcissism to be on a scale ranging from benign to malign, grandiose to grotesque.

I confuse nothing. Ends define where the presidents fall on my scale. Trump IS both malign and grotesque and he will leave nothing of redeeming value behind.

which any truly politically ideologically-free, objective observer (think putting aside conservative judges appointed to courts as an achievement of Trump's) must wholeheartedly agree with.

LBJ and others had achievements which they could genuinely be given credit for.

But Trump, as you suggest, will have none of that. So surely looking at narcissism from

"Since reality doesn’t support their grandiose view of themselves, narcissists live
in a fantasy world propped up by distortion, self-deception, and magical thinking."
https://www.helpguide.org/articles/mental-disorders/narcissistic-personality-disorder.htm

that point of view, while taking grandiosity as a characteristic of all narcissists, surely at least a large
majority of more than 100 authorities as those of yours will in future put Trump above LBJ on the scale.

Since, on the face of it, at least LBJ and the other presidents you guys have named had some reason for having a grandiose
view of themselves while Trump has none, then more than those others Trump's narcissistic fantasy world far outweighs theirs.