Replies to post #14314 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[wbmw]

Chipguy, Re: I looked at the two primary patents in question. They
primarily apply to VLIW machines and both clearly apply
to IA64. I thought one of them could have been challenged
on prior art but I am sure Intel would have done so if
there was reasonable grounds.

Ok, so the courts decided that some things about the VLIW machine in IPF infringed on INGR's patents. That's still a lot different than saying that Intel copied an INGR design when they created IPF - Mike Magee's Itanigraph, or whatever he called it.

[cordob]

Chr, Re: Do you remember how much Intel paid Intergraph for some of IA64's advanced features?

$150m IIRC

There were two separate patent suits against Intel by INGR:
As an ex happy INGR stockholder, I can tell you it was indeed $ 150M. On the other patent case against Intel (clipper patents), Intel settled for $ 300 M.

I have not followed the detail of the follow trough on the PIC patents. I believe in 2002 the situation was that if Intel showed a workaround was being used they would pay $ 150 M and if they could not show that they would pay $ 250 M.

The relevant links are here:
http://www.intergraph.com/press02/settlement.asp

http://www.intergraph.com/intel/

http://www.intergraph.com/intel/indexpic.asp

All the best
Cor

[cordob]

Ah just ran out of editing minutes :(

The additional $ 100 M I mentioned which Intel might pay for the PIC patents, maye still happen, as from this text in the INGR 2nd quarter release on july 30, 2003:

Based upon the trial court’s decision and the parties’ prior settlement agreement, Intel paid $150 million to the Company in November 2002. Intel has appealed this ruling. Regardless of the outcome on appeal, the Company will retain the $150 million received for the trial court decision. Intel will be required to pay an additional $100 million in damages if the trial court’s decision is affirmed on appeal. The parties have completed the briefing process, and oral argument is tentatively scheduled for the first week of December 2003. The final decision from the appeal court is not expected until the first quarter of 2004.

TI paid $ 18 M as a one-off payment.
They are now after HP, Gateway and Dell.

All the best
Cor