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11/26/06 3:20 AM

#226656 RE: brainlessone #226598

hey, brain told you I would read your stuff
and will when it looks intersting or curious.

Was wondering what the substance "produced by the human body during cocaine consumption" was and started doing some calcs, but will leave that for for now.

"Rojolink + 0 Hudson's Murky Waters Have...Pure Cocaine?
Gothamist (+subscribe) By Jen Chung 11/22/2006 12:38 PM read

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The Germans are so weird AND so clever! Der Spiegel reports that the Institute for Biomedical and Pharmaceutical Research in Nuremberg foraged various rivers in Europe and the U.S. to find the "substance produced by the human body during cocaine...

close The Germans are so weird AND so clever! Der Spiegel reports that the Institute for Biomedical and Pharmaceutical Research in Nuremberg foraged various rivers in Europe and the U.S. to find the "substance produced by the human body during cocaine consumption." And when they hit the Hudson River, apparently the numbers were through the roof for consumption, when taking into account statistics for drug use:

For example in New York, IBMP teams searched the Hudson River and found the by-products of a projected cocaine consumption totaling 16.4 tons per year. There are approximately 3.4 million people aged 15 to 65 living in the Hudson's watershed. According to the United Nations "World Drug Report," 2.8 percent of Americans in this age group use cocaine at least once a year. That would mean that about 95,000 people are responsible for an annual consumption of 16.4 tons of pure cocaine -- a per capita rate of 172 grams per year.
But the "World Drug Report" says the average user, at least in Central and Western Europe, consumes only 35 grams of pure cocaine per year. Unless the appetite of the average American is considerably greater, present estimates of overall consumption are likely to be too low. Either there are more coke-heads than reflected by the official statistics, or they snort far more Charlie per year than yet realized.

And there's more. IBMP Director Fritz Sorgel says there are a number of further lessons provided by his study:
- Good news for Germany -- cocaine consumption has, according to his data -- stagnated.
- New York continues its reign as the Cocaine Capital of the World. One is almost tempted to upbraid them for wasting the stuff. Nowhere did researchers find as much pure cocaine as they did in the Hudson River.
- Europe is catching up in cocaine consumption, with Spain bravely leading the way. The British and Italians also display a ravenous appetite for blow.

Maybe the Hudson is actually a dumping ground for cocaine! We're not sure how reliable the study is, but one reason why the amount of cocaine consumption is so high in the NYC area: The city is a major drug trafficking corridor."

http://www.rojo.com/story/MyZ5o2Urs8WUDzss
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11/29/06 4:46 AM

#227316 RE: brainlessone #226598

brain, i'm going to talk to you as if we were face to face .. we'll kinda do a role play thing .. to play the game you have to picture and feel face to face.

Seriously, I'm not being sarcastic or anything like that, not playing games just suggesting further parameters which seem sensible and good feeling for me. to further understanding between us. Is that alright and if you don't answer that question, you bastard, .. with a smile and easy feeling .. i'll post it over again and again. i'll push da spam barrier.

Wish you hadn't asked me if I had read the article because you already should know the answer. .. pause .. quizzical look with smile .. knowing me as you should, by know, you must know de answer .. you give neither me nor yourself any credit with that question ..

that said, yes of course I read it as I always do. personally I would not comment on an article which i had not read at least a good portion of it unless i qualified my comment as i have done a couple of times recently. may have read it carefully if rested and not in a hurry or perhaps just cursorily perused it carefully or skimmingly. i could have just said you're kidding, but where would that get us.

c'mon, ... seriously.

oh, you remember, also that i told you i started doing some figures? A specific reason why you should not have asked me if i had read it. if i were in your place i wouldn't even have considered asking the question. You see how we are so different? noticed you didn't respond to any of my personal stuff, too .. like before, you seldom answered questions.

enough of that, you're better. just felt i had to say it.

have not reread it all, but have done, rechecked and rechecked some figures. slept, but dangerously nodded off driving home and wandering a bit here, too.

you will be amazed at what i finally came up with .. very interesting and you'll see it in here ..

I doubt if you have checked the calcs and fair enough as why should we have to, but i often do IF IT IS PERTINENT AS NUMBERS IN ARTICLES ARE OFTEN SHONKY AS THE NUMERS IN THIS ARTICLE, I BELIEVE AT THIS MOMENT, ARE .. you, i think can take my word on this, but if i were you i should and would check the figures.

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11/29/06 7:54 AM

#227333 RE: brainlessone #226598

brain, i was amidst another mission when i, just now, read your second reply.

a small apolology as i could have just said,

umm brain no, you have easily and politely shown me that it seems this is one that i unfortunately didn't read all of.

the tone in the words would not have been quite the same.

This article is more interesting the more one reads it and it leads to other matters. I now know that 1 pound is some 453 grams and was reminded of the difference between a short ton of 2000 lbs and a long tonne? weighing in at 2240 lbs.

I did get the impression from your posts that you read it as benzo .. was it? whatever and etc .. was the only by-product the study was looking at, is that right? earlier had considered if different grades of coke were a factor in all this then saw that they had said they had found an unusully large amount of "pure heroin" in the Hudson which i don't recall reading before .. actually i could have read it all and only remembered a bit, that's another possibility. brain, there an infinite number of realities and no two person's are too close to the same. anyway the fact that they state this suggests to me that pure heroin is a by-procuct measured and taken into account.

not sure on this question ???

so where am i now. i think i need to ask if the compound you placed in your second reply is in fact pure heroin and in fact there is only one variety of apple. the use of the singular "by-product" then of the plural "by-products" confused me at first until i realized that there were different kinds of apples.

is it one product your compound = pure heroin or two things the study took into account your compound and pure heroin?

man, i am real fuzzy now, hope this makes sense.

this too loud for me now and have to go out to get something to eat but just like title .. i need it now.

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