Replies to post #5535 on AMD strictly moderated (AMD)

[jhalada]

Elmer,

AMD can only use pricing to compete here and ASPs will reflect that.

Darn, too bad AMD can't twist arm and make threats like Intel did when behind in performance.

Joe

[mmoy]

> AMD can only use pricing to compete here and ASPs will
> reflect that.

I guess that's true for heavy specint customers.

Let me know when I can upgrade my X2 4800+ to an FX for $300.

[pgerassi]

Elmer Phud:

And many Opteron 2 socket systems wipe the floor with QX6700 Kentsfield in SPECfp_rate2000:

http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2006q4/cpu2000-20061030-07857.html
http://www.spec.org/cpu2000/results/res2006q4/cpu2000-20061016-07641.html

92.1 (Opteron 2220 SE) to 65.0 (QX6700). The slowest socket F Opteron (2210) pair is 10% faster than the fastest Kentsfield, 71.4 versus 65.0 even though they have less than 68% of the clock.

http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2006q3/cpu2000-20060721-06621.html

A pair of 1.86GHz@1066FSB Woodcrest 5120s is as fast.

http://www.spec.org/osg/cpu2000/results/res2006q3/cpu2000-20060626-06261.html

I call a Kentsfield QX6700 getting beaten by a mere pair of Opteron 2210s as getting trampled. A $1300 CPU getting trounced by 2 2210s, MB and 4x1GB Reg DDR2 PC2-3200 DIMMs costing less than $1200. That FSB rears its ugly head again.

Wonder what SPEC CPU 2006 will show?

Pete