Pimpin....I loaned them money, for restricted shares of stock in their private placement. How about that for having faith in their business plan? I would like to see at least THOSE shares get even again. They need 2 years to mature to the point where there is no sizeable fee to convert to tradable shares, and I will be damned if I am going to pay a fee to be allowed to sell at a loss. And by the way...I am not complaining. I am discussing the situation, which in many cases, is at odds with those who believe the company's future is all roses,and that management is solid. Forgive me, but many long time shareholders have earned the right to remain unimpressed