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12/14/18 6:45 PM

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Shaming Chinese hackers won't work because cyber-espionage is here to stay

"How the 'Five Eyes' cooked up the campaign to kill Huawei"

Adam Segal

Don't look for any resolution when President Obama meets with President Jinping next week, but they can calm things down

Thu 30 May 2013 11.07 EDT
First published on Thu 30 May 2013 11.07 EDT

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Both Secretary of State John Kerry and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey broached cyber-attacks during visits to China. White House spokesman Jay Carney said this week that hacking is brought up at "every level in our meetings with our Chinese counterparts .. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/28/us-usa-china-hacking-idUSBRE94R02720130528 ".

Yet neither airing grievances nor naming culprits have seemed to shame China. Chinese officials have responded by arguing that China is in fact the world's biggest victim of cyber-attacks, the majority of which originate in the US. The Chinese press also paints accusations of hacking as attempts to discredit China and misdirection away from offensive actions by the US. One Chinese article called the United States "the real hacking empire .. http://sec.chinabyte.com/354/12612354.shtml ."

Moreover, while APT1, the group of hackers allegedly responsible for hacking the New York Times and other targets, went silent soon after they were publicly named, they were active again just three months later .. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/world/asia/chinese-hackers-resume-attacks-on-us-targets.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 , according to government officials and the cyber-security firm Mandiant.

Economic cyber-espionage is particularly thorny point of discussion because the US, unlike China, distinguishes between attacks on private industry and more bread and butter political and military espionage. The US would like to limit Chinese theft of intellectual property from American companies, but is not particularly interested in negotiating any constraints over US intelligence gathering. As Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and NSA, put it: "You spy, we spy, but you just steal the wrong stuff.' That's a hard conversation .. http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/119394-how-the-u-dot-s-dot-government-hacks-the-world ."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/30/china-hacking-cyber-espionage-obama
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12/14/18 8:06 PM

#295691 RE: fuagf #295685

Detained Canadians Michael Kovrig and Michael Spavor face 'nightmare' interrogation in China

By international reporter Michael Vincent

Updated about 2 hours ago

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"The odds will be against him."

'Kill the chickens, scare the monkey'


Photo: Michael Spavor was detained on the same day as Mr Kovrig. (AP)

This week, Canada learned it is the chicken in the Chinese proverb.

China has taken not just one but two Canadian citizens "hostage", in the words of one experienced China watcher, the Lowy Institute's Richard McGregor.

Mr McGregor said this was a reprisal for the arrest of Meng Wanzhou, a powerful Huawei executive recently detained in Canada, pending extradition to the US.

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Same story, different faces

In 2014, as Canada's ambassador in Beijing, Mr Saint-Jacques had to deal with an almost identical situation to the Mr Kovrig arrest.

A Chinese national, Su Bin, was arrested in Canada on a US warrant accusing him of spying, so the Chinese arrested a Canadian missionary couple, Kevin and Julia Garratt, in response.

"While they never explicitly said it was in order to make a swap, it was clear from the many meetings I had with the Chinese [that was their intent]," Mr Saint-Jacques said.

"Eventually, Su Bin surprised everyone because he made the deal with the US attorneys to cooperate and he was shipped to the US."

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-15/canadians-detained-in-china-face-tough-interrogation/10621930
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12/28/18 3:08 AM

#296803 RE: fuagf #295685

Huawei lashes out at 'malicious' and 'unfair' treatment by Australia and other nations

"How the 'Five Eyes' cooked up the campaign to kill Huawei"

By business reporter David Chau, wires

Updated about 2 hours ago

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US President Donald Trump is reportedly considering an executive order to ban Huawei .. https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/wall-street-tumble-huawei-zte-ban-reports/10671082 .. and fellow Chinese technology company ZTE, according to Reuters.

The executive order has been under consideration for more than eight months and could be issued as early as January. It would block US companies from buying equipment from foreign telecommunications makers that pose significant national security risks.

ABC/Reuters

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/huawei-lashes-out-at-unfair-treatment-australia-western-nations/10671818