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Shaming Chinese hackers won't work because cyber-espionage is here to stay

"How the 'Five Eyes' cooked up the campaign to kill Huawei"

Adam Segal

Don't look for any resolution when President Obama meets with President Jinping next week, but they can calm things down

Thu 30 May 2013 11.07 EDT
First published on Thu 30 May 2013 11.07 EDT

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Both Secretary of State John Kerry and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff General Martin Dempsey broached cyber-attacks during visits to China. White House spokesman Jay Carney said this week that hacking is brought up at "every level in our meetings with our Chinese counterparts .. http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/28/us-usa-china-hacking-idUSBRE94R02720130528 ".

Yet neither airing grievances nor naming culprits have seemed to shame China. Chinese officials have responded by arguing that China is in fact the world's biggest victim of cyber-attacks, the majority of which originate in the US. The Chinese press also paints accusations of hacking as attempts to discredit China and misdirection away from offensive actions by the US. One Chinese article called the United States "the real hacking empire .. http://sec.chinabyte.com/354/12612354.shtml ."

Moreover, while APT1, the group of hackers allegedly responsible for hacking the New York Times and other targets, went silent soon after they were publicly named, they were active again just three months later .. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/20/world/asia/chinese-hackers-resume-attacks-on-us-targets.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0 , according to government officials and the cyber-security firm Mandiant.

Economic cyber-espionage is particularly thorny point of discussion because the US, unlike China, distinguishes between attacks on private industry and more bread and butter political and military espionage. The US would like to limit Chinese theft of intellectual property from American companies, but is not particularly interested in negotiating any constraints over US intelligence gathering. As Michael Hayden, former director of the CIA and NSA, put it: "You spy, we spy, but you just steal the wrong stuff.' That's a hard conversation .. http://www.businessweek.com/printer/articles/119394-how-the-u-dot-s-dot-government-hacks-the-world ."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/may/30/china-hacking-cyber-espionage-obama