That will be hard to do considering the bond never belonged to cshd to begin with from my understanding. Fidelity owns 1/3 of the bond or did.
This will be a fire sale. The best thing is not to sell at the bottom. It will be hard to get a sale in when nobodys buying. Watch for any bounces, be there any. If everyone can get out without any losses of capital should bring relief.
The only other avenue is a classs action and anyone who is a shareholder should at the very least consider this.
To bad that this had to happen. I was envying you guys and not knowing what was causing this stock to keep climbing.
To bad that honesty and straight fowardness can't stay in the fore front. Integrity goes farther than any hype surrounding a company.
From different translated articles I’m seeing… Eddy Torres was no longer Second VP as of 2003. Looks like he was canned for some type of coup. How long ago did he sign over ownership to Rufus?
Note: Reyes translates to King. Look at the non translated pages and it says Reyes.
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 383 Quote: Originally Posted by cshdlong Well today is his chance to come through loud and clear???????????
THEN I WILL SAY IT LOUD AND CLEAR! RELAX I BELIEVE EVERYTHING WILL TURN OUT JUST FINE! I APOLOGIZE BUT MY VOICE HAS BEEN PARCHED DRY AND DUSTY AFTER 3000 YEARS!
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 382 Shareholders calm down. I believe even Rufus said in the interview he would retire and be replaced. I believe this is a good thing so that the company can move "forward". For all the shareholders and the company's sake this is probably the best thing. Now the company can move on with its business and everyone should be just fine.
Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 382 I was asked to report this again so here it is from earlier this morning:
I'm going to share a possible scenario with all of you that would not only drive the share price straight up but also absolutely kill the shorts.
It's clear that the SEC wanted to get Rufus but probably doesn't have a real issue with the Company.
So Rufus orchestrates his removal, which allows the BOD to hire an outsider from the financial industry with impeccable credentials.
The arrival of such an individual removes any doubt of the legitimacy of CSHD and triggers the rise of the stock once trading is resumed, which I assume, will be very quickly after the SEC and CSHD reach a settlement (possibly as soon as today).
With no questions of legitimacy remaining, the price moves toward the book value of $11 after both the release of the 10Q and distribution of the new shares.
We should all thank Rufus for being willing to orchestrate this string of events and not only protect our investments but set the stage for significant rewards in the very near future.
---------------- Your last one which i removed I didn't agree on except for the above as being a very plausible "scenario" except I wouldn't say he "orchestrated it. Bingo! Bingo! Bingo!
Posted by: Chas56789 In reply to: Chas56789 who wrote msg# 121672 Date:11/2/2006 1:56:25 PM Post #of 121768
Investigations are REAL ! I called myself and spoke to SEC officials and called congressional leaders.
CSHD is FROZEN in TIME. It is VERY easy to determine where all the shares came from. Who sold them and how many of those shares are Naked Shorted shares. It's all about forensic Sciences ! VERY VERY VERY simple !
GREED is on the Shorters and the Naked Shorters position. IMHO Shorters overkilled themsleves. You can't sell what you haven't borrowed without getting into BIG BIG trouble.
GREED ...... it's all about GREED and Naked Shorting !
Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Stafford, VA Posts: 44
He did say that the SEC would come after him for anything when they realized the bonds were real. I imagine a deal was struck and yes, Mr. Harris also said that when he felt everything was going the right direction that he would step down as CEO and have a pretty face run the show.
How many people, on how many stock boards would like to know that I have confirmed the Vice President's signature at the bottom of the Certificate of Ownership for the $500 Million dollar bond? Common how many?
Eddy Reyes Torres is infact a member of the staff of BCV (Banco Central De Venezeula) he has published two articles in their online library of documents.
Here is the link: (It takes a minute to come up so give it some time.)
From bonds submitted to GSCCCA site, Eddy Reyes Torres is the signed name granting Conversion solutions the 500 mil bond...
If anyone can read (mostly spanish) any (google) searches related to Mr. Torres, there may be some information related to potential projects justifying bond issuance to conversion solutions.
http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:E6-xrn5E7-UJ:www.iadb.org/EXR/cultural/catal ogues/venezuela/CREDITOSPage.htm+Eddy+Reyes+Torres&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2 At the Central Bank of Venezuela, Caracas: Antonio Casas González, President Manuel Lago Rodríguez, Armando León, Domingo Maza Zavala, Roosevelt Velázquez, and Jorge Giordani, Members of the Board of Directors Marco Sandoval, First Vice President Eddy Reyes Torres, Second Vice President
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Member Rated: posted October 28, 2006 16:43October 28, 2006 16:43 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- nice find mnvestor! It would have been nice if the SEC would have researched the GSCCCA website before bringing this stock to a halt. Most of the questions they are asking have already been answered by shareholders DD!
Posted by: kingmack In reply to: Matteroftime who wrote msg# 96688 Date:10/11/2006 8:45:41 AM Post #of 98288
Once your at the website you will have to setup an account, $5 for 4 hours or an monthly account for $9.95. Once you have an account go to
(1)State Index searching -
(2)Real Estate Deed Index -
(3)Name Search(Type in Conversion Solutions).
This will pull up 12 files that have been filed with the Superior Court of the State of Georgia. View all docs don't just skim through them, it's worth the time. Some important docs are deep down in the filings. Pay close attention to the Corporate Resolutions filed & the Venezula Bond Info filed. Good luck to you. Here's some interesting Book & Page numbers, Book#2106 pg.64, Book#2106 pg.16&17, Book#2106 pg.54 & 65, Book#2109 pg.752-770.
WHY CSHD BASHERS CAN'T BE TRUSTED (one big reason, http://www.gsccca.org/ , that is, among many others)
FWIW:
TallRob0 from below:
"i just paid my $5 to the state of Georgia to look at the bonds and contracts for CSHD...all I can say is HOLY CRAP!...its all true.........and more..........No way am I going to copy what im viewing here. because it would be illegal.........but DAMN! if your shorting this stock.....your honestly XXXXXX ;WOW!........Rufus has NOT been Pr'ing everything this company has been doing............WOW!"
Posted by: rookiecrd1 In reply to: lesnshawn who wrote msg# 94519 Date:10/7/2006 3:06:49 PM Post #of 94548
It pretty much shows everything that has been going on behind the scenes.
-The multiple bond agreements. (I know atleast One bond is given to CSHD in exchange for 50% of future profit on any JV used with those funds). So this shows that CSHD does actually own the bond. It clearly states that they are now the owner of the bond.
-The AISS Georgia Aerospace CSHD JV agreement is there and proves that What Harris stated about them being in control, is CORRECT. Very interesting stuff about the JV is included.
-The Merger is official, and had been filed with the state of Georgia back in June/july.
I have no doubt in my mind that the 10k will be filed on time. There is no reason not to. Everything is already in the audited 8k as well as these filings with the state. They just need to put it together and add anythign else that has occured since.
Show them the 8-k's and the pr's, explain them so they understand them. Then show them the http://www.gsccca.org/ site (look under real estate/name search/conversion solutions). Explain to them that if anything filed with the court was false Rufus would be immediately open to charges of fraud.
That should help them to see the worth of cshd, and help you to again feel good about turning them onto this trade.
i was going to ask the same question.. where do i start looking if i pay.. maybe ill just pay then search cshd
hmm anyone done it yet?
Yes I belive he is reffering to Joint Ventures and Sharehoders Agreement. Contract number: 62.43.67 Doc # 019727 About the Joint Venture between CVSU and Georgia Aerospace. I've got a printed copy w/ me right now
Originally Posted by ncnavguy Yes I belive he is reffering to Joint Ventures and Sharehoders Agreement. Contract number: 62.43.67 Doc # 019727 About the Joint Venture between CVSU and Georgia Aerospace. I've got a printed copy w/ me right now
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bump Only problem is the document is covered w/ Confidential stamps So I don't believe that it should be posted on the forum in its orginal form
Today, 06:42 PM #8482 Princessjunkie1980 HSM Newbie Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 36 Its in the terms and conditions of the GCCCA site that you CAN NOT publish or share any of the information on the site. It is for viewing purposes only
Today, 06:43 PM #8484 otcaddict HSM Addict Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: PA Posts: 3,005 Quote: Originally Posted by clarkeysmalls Okay...now quit looking in the mirror. Just kidding man. You are greatly appreciated on the thread. Hope to be in some trades with you in the future.
back at you bro, where will we find our next 1,000 bagger
Today, 06:52 PM #8501 frontiersman38-55 HSM Newbie Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 10 Quote: Originally Posted by Nutbuter Where exactly are you guys searching on the gsccca.org site?
I paid the $5 for the 4 hours account but can't seem to find a search other than the index searches such as the notary index. ------------------------------
After you pay the $5 and get access, you want to search the Bartow County Deed Images (under Real Estate). Look in particular at Book 2106, starting from page 1. Or, just search Real Estate state-wide for "Conversion Solutions".
Posted by: TallRob0 In reply to: None Date:10/6/2006 10:13:38 PM Post #of 94210
i just paid my $5 to the state of Georgia to look at the bonds and contracts for CSHD...all I can say is HOLY CRAP!...its all true.........and more..........No way am I going to copy what im viewing here. because it would be illegal.........but DAMN! if your shorting this stock.....your honestly XXXXXX ;WOW!........Rufus has NOT been Pr'ing everything this company has been doing............WOW!
Posted by: rookiecrd1 In reply to: bluediamonds who wrote msg# 94186 Date:10/6/2006 11:03:40 PM Post #of 94240
I just want to confirm, I also paid the $5 fee and got access to the records of the state of Georgia. Several Global funding agreements, as well as the AISS JV with CSHD AISS and Georgia Aerospace can all be confirmed.
Today, 09:15 PM #8630 techno791 HSM Addict Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: West of Tampa, close to the Hurricane infested waters Posts: 3,339 Quote:
Originally Posted by bluediamonds Posted by: rookiecrd1 In reply to: bluediamonds who wrote msg# 94186 Date:10/6/2006 11:03:40 PM Post #of 94240
I just want to confirm, I also paid the $5 fee and got access to the records of the state of Georgia. Several Global funding agreements, as well as the AISS JV with CSHD AISS and Georgia Aerospace can all be confirmed.
Great stuff.
Other board.
----------------------- Isn't that funny, you guys can spend the 5 dollars to research all this stuff.
Yet "anti-scam research sites" claim they cannot find any info anything and conclude that it's all fake.
Very interesting. And I'm sure none of the sites have retracted their falsehoods.
Posted by: rookiecrd1 In reply to: None Date:10/6/2006 11:30:46 PM Post #of 94260
Wow!
Just wanted to say Over the last hour I have been reading and skimming dozens of pages filed with the state of Georgia by CSHD (at http://www.gsccca.org ). The Merger has been filed, the Bonds are in their possession, and there is a lot of great details in these filing. It's well worth the $5.
Serf, BTW the merger is complete according to the state of Georgia :)
Posted by: rookiecrd1 In reply to: None Date:10/6/2006 11:53:06 PM Post #of 94274
I urge ALL bashers to pay the $5 to access nearly 400 pages of filings about each and every bond agreement CSHD has claimed, the JV with AISS, and the Merger agreement with FHAL. It will save you a lot fo time here, and you will all most likely be believers:
Posted by: TallRob0 In reply to: None Date:10/6/2006 11:41:32 PM Post #of 94277
well, EVERYTHING RUFUS said was true,,,,,just pay our $5 to the georgia website and see and more,,,,,,,,,,,,WOW, all of you bashers that say the bonds arent there or the AISS JV isnt real or the humanitarian bond or FHAL tree log or carbon credits are fake are complete LIERS!.......your lies have been finally put to rest........its ALL true,,and then some. You just need to do some hard core searching....WOW,,,,,,,,,,we havent seen anything yet!.all of you bashers and shorters are ******!
Originally posted by imapoorcollegestudent: Okay everyone, We had some discussion a little earlier on the website www.gsccca.org that Rufus said go ahead and sign up and do some DD on this site. Lots and Lots of Stuff (Signed papers, legal speak, etc.) on CSHD. Very much worth the 10 dollars per month to have full access! This is the Real deal. BTW these are document you must pay to play and it seems as though we are not to discuss these in detail on this site (from what I gather) I paid and I'm happy to play!
Shareholders you need to realize this does not change the status of the merger or anything else. Now when the bonds are validated by the court the company will be able to move forward with the original plans and it will be shown that the assets are real and I can only see that brokers and investors will see this as a very extremely undervalued situation because of the confirmation. Combined it will make a very powerful statement that what everyone thought was not real will now be an "absolutely confirmed reality" and a very valuable one.