When you can prove that Laurs backed out with solid proof instead of, "he told someone that", I'll start listening. You can't do it. As far as Utopya phones, all of a sudden, showing up on Amazon search, I'll trust my gut, and sleep good tonight knowing phones will be for sale very, very soon. This thing is about to take off. Revenues from phones is going to be huge, but it's going to be because of AMAZING software.