Conversation? Demanding an answer is not how it works. Your perennial claims of victimhood are of no interest to me. It is what has got you banned on other boards, and your pleas of just wanting to know "how a liberal thinks" are about as genuine as Trump's hair. You are the one that has stated a number of times that you were a lifelong liberal until trump or whatever. So your baiting is mostly just tedious. Once you crossed for Rubicon to defending trump no matter the issue, you departed from reality, so go pester someone else who wants to play your silly games.