Replies to post #281829 on Tornado Alley (PROG)

[ForReal]

ForReal, on separation of children from families note

Obviously a bullshit political move as well as a heartless policy to try and get some resolution to an ongoing immigration dilemma. So, now families get to be incarcerated together.

Much is left unsaid in your synopsis. Why did these asylum seekers choose illegal entry, rather than submit their asylum request at a port of entry or an American Consulate in Mexico (I believe there are 9 of them)?

And, you have no thoughts as to how we should deal with all this. Should we just open up the border to all asylum seekers and/or to all those who wish to come to America? What do you propose as a solution to this mess?

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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) June 24, 2018

"ForReal, on separation of children from families note"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Vm0hIE-V4

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President Donald Trump Goes Out Of His Way To Insult US Allies | Morning Joe | MSNBC

"ForReal, on separation of children from families note"

MSNBC
Published on Jun 22, 2018

After signing the executive order on family separations at the border, President Trump resumed his tough talk
about strengthening the border and added that Mexico does little more than take U.S. money and send the U.S. drugs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7zJn49UrVg

If we don't do something it there will be millions at the border!!

Mexico, US, Canada: little understanding
[...]
Although still oddly disputed by the brown-shirted, hard-core jingoists, the best demographic studies indicate that more Mexican laborers are returning to Mexico
than trying to escape it. In fact, just last week the border patrol reported that for FY 2015, border apprehensions dropped to a half-century low.
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=139825362

Has this lying, scumbag of a president ever painted a factually based picture?

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This Was Another Sign of How Deep the Poison of Trumpism Has Sunk In

The president spent the night demonizing undocumented immigrants as violent criminals—and lying.

By Jack Holmes
Jun 22, 2018

VIDEO

We rarely seem to ask anymore why the President of the United States is continually holding campaign rallies when his next election is more than two years away. It's just another fact of our dangerously surreal new existence: the creeping presence of the Leader and his Movement in all things, and the public demonstrations of that presence. (History, of course, tells us that it's always a good sign when the leader of a strongman regime in a fragile democracy is continually holding rallies.) The results on Wednesday night in Duluth, Minnesota, were predictable.

Donald Trump, American president, spent a great deal of time complaining. He complained about media coverage of this and other rallies, where apparently newspapers and TV networks don't give him enough credit for how many fans he has. He complained about media coverage of the current state of the economy, which often correctly paints it as a continuation of sustained economic gains under his predecessor. He complained that his opponents are described as "elites" when he is "smarter" and "richer" and has "a better apartment." He complained about the media, period, and earned a chant in response from his Huge Number of Fans, You Wouldn't Believe How Many Fans:

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This week saw the American president characterize Hispanic immigrants as vermin who will "pour into and infest our country." As The Washington Post highlighted, he has long thrilled his rally-goers by recounting the parable of "The Snake," where the title character represents immigrants whom more tender-hearted citizens might be tempted to allow in. Amazingly, people fretted over whether he recently called all undocumented immigrants "animals" or just members of MS-13, a distinction made irrelevant by his entire career in public life and the fact that 40 percent of the people he deports are now non-criminals.
With links - https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/a21748302/trump-rally-minnesota-immigrants-violent-criminals/

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Trump Holds Rally Amid Aftermath of Family Separation Policy: A Closer Look

Late Night with Seth Meyers
Published on Jun 21, 2018

Seth takes a closer look at President Trump retreating to the safe space of a campaign rally as the aftermath of his family separation policy came to light.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1ZfBFyrskY

Was FDR the president who served 16 years? According to Trump one president did.