Replies to post #138304 on Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Inc (KBLB)

[Theprofessor2]

Great find.

[Lebbe1]

Great find Truth, good to get more details on the project...

Too bad, again, it needs to come from what we find, would have been good that this information came from the company itself....

[gimmegimmeminemine]

If the experiment of silkworm rearing is successful and approved by functional agencies of Vietnam, the Quang Nam People's Committee will consider to allow Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Inc. to continually invest and develop the silkworm rearing project in commercial scale.

Not exactly comforting to read.

So even though KBLB has received their ERC they still need further approval to go full scale commercial production?

And some posters were saying we are much further along than Kim is saying.

It sounds like they are not as far along as everyone thought and hoped.

[ImjinBridger]

"and approved by functional agencies of Vietnam,'

That's a scary phrase. "Functional agencies" sounds pretty vague. Once Kim has spent $2.2 million on the lab then "Functional agencies," who ever they are, decide if they'll "allow Kraig Biocraft Laboratories Inc. to continually invest."

Once he's spent $2.2 million on the new lab he's kind of over a barrel on meeting any new demands the "Functional agencies," might make.

Sounds like the ERC was just permission to spend $2.2 million.

[bananarama]

THANK YOU, TRUTH!

[Axolotl]

Interesting article.

I think it's important to note that this has been run through an online translator so the nuances of the word choice, intended meaning, and actual meaning may be different from the original.

On top of one poster's suggestion to keep the intended audience in mind.

I don't feel that this is a bad sign for the company. It sounds like there's just a bunch of rubber stamps the company needs before full scale production.

I've said since we got Vietnam news that this is going to be at least a year long endeavor yet. This is proving to be true.

Things seem on track.

Either way, thanks Truth.

[Money4Nothing-M4N]

I posted this in September 2016. This is the process I was expecting Kim to go through to get the ERC. He got it, so I assumed there must have been some kind of exception made. In light of what you found in VN article, might be time to take another look at what VN law says about foreign biotechnology...

Re: Cleantade Post# 112542
Here's another reason why I think VN production is years away- According to VN law, if a biotechnology was developed in a country other than VN, it isn't even eligible to be registered for use in VN unless another country has recognized it is as "effective".

Now, if it's developed IN VN, we've got a shot. This may also explain the language Kim used when talking about hybrids etc. He might not be able to do ANYTHING at all there unless it's "invented" in VN. Which I assume means that he's getting around it by creating a new strain there.

My source on this is the 2015 U.S. Dept. of Agriculture GAIN report on Biotechnology in Vietnam. I've posted links to it before when explaining why I think we are years away but it never sparked much discussion.

Read that report on what it takes for biotech in VN and you won't think VN production is around the corner.

"*MARD’s Circular 23/2010/TT-BNNPTNT on Recognition of Biotechnological Advances in
Agriculture and Rural Development. On April 7, 2010 MARD issued Circular 23/2010/TTBNNTPN
regarding the Recognition of biotechnological advances of agriculture and rural development
sector. The Circular regulates the order, procedures on registration, and the recognition of
biotechnological advances in the field of agriculture, forestry, and fishery that are under MARD’s
management.
Article 4 of the Circular regulates the criteria required for a biotechnological advance eligible for the
registration. Accordingly, biotechnological advances that are developed in Vietnam or overseas can be
registered for recognition. The biotechnological advances developed in foreign countries shall be only
eligible for registration if it was already recognized as effective for use in foreign countries and is on the
list of high technology and products of high technology encouraged for investment and use in Vietnam.
Article 5 of the Circular regulates the order and procedure on registration for the recognition of a
biotechnological advance developed in Vietnam or a foreign country.
The dossier registering for the recognition of a biotechnological advance developed in a foreign country,
includes: 1) Application for recognition of a biotechnological advance developed in a foreign country
(Appendix 1); 2) Report on research results and production trials of the registering organization
(Appendix 2); 3) Document on the recognition or similar document issued by the original country; and
4) Results of field trials, crop variety testing, animal species, pesticides, fertilizer, soil enhancing
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product, animal feed, veterinary product, vaccine, products used in preservation, processing of agroforestry,
fishery products, and environment treatment of registering organization. For registration to
recognize GM plants, GM animals, and GM micro-organisms, in addition to the above mentioned
documents, the registering dossier must include a copy of the biosafety certificate issued by a relevant
Vietnamese agency."

To our knowledge, we still don't have this biosafety certificate. Unless I missed that part.

USDA GAIN Report on Biotechnology in Vietnam