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10/13/06 4:10 PM

#33961 RE: Sarmad #33960

Re: To make up on the interest and dilution, ATI products need to earn $275m/yr. They have never done that even once in their history - in a sustainable way. They've had a good quarter occasionally, but I don't recall them ever having a whole good year.

Add to that their market losses in Intel chipsets, and it could take even longer for them to ramp to this point.
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10/13/06 4:37 PM

#33962 RE: Sarmad #33960

Re: The problem for January is that analysts might give AMD a free pass for one quarter, until negative results are clear.

Here's what the bullish AMD analysts are expecting (Lehman):

http://www1.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=476&mn=9504&pt=msg&mid=612007
 
YE2005 (YoY%) YE2006 (YoY%) YE2007 (YoY%)
MPU Revenue
- AMD $3,795M (+50) $5,146M (+36) $5,855M (+14)
- Intel $28,116M (+15) $23,653M (-16) $25,505M (+8)
- MSS 88/12 82/18 81/19

MPU Units
- AMD 43.1M (+3) 55.2M (+15) 71.2M (+13)
- Intel 190.3M (+14) 187.9M (-1) 203.6M (+8)
- MSS 82/18 77/23 74/26

MPU ASPs
- AMD $88 (+10) $93 (+6) $82 (-12)
- Intel $148 (+1) $126 (-15) $125 (0)

Diluted EPS
- AMD $0.70 (+49) $1.17 (+67) $1.39 (+19)

Seems rather optimistic to me (while pretty pessimistic for Intel). If this is what bullish analysts are expecting, I think they'll be disappointed.
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10/13/06 6:26 PM

#33965 RE: Sarmad #33960

so, you are saying .... this is a bad deal?