Replies to post #18099 on Avalon Technology Grp (fka AVLN)

[PennyCow]

There appears to be a group of nonstop "pumpers" that frequent this board. Notice who replied to the obvious fraud picture and who did not. Better yet, let me tell who did not.

jagvik12, crossbow, bol23123 and jhmgolf. dmbao?

Check it out This is very amusing http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13826393

http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=13830934

[odelltrclan]

Jagvik:

I am trying to be civil. There is no doubt there are "bashers" in stocks who have agendas. I have accused someone in Cano Petroleum on the yahoo boards and the person at one point actually admitted it. Posters on HSM discussed hedge funds, etc. and pointed to illegal naked short selling.

I have a hard time believing either would exist for a company and stock like this. Its a penny with no financial and clearly is being run by someone of questionable character. Whether he is legitimate in this business venture remains to be seen. I hope he makes good, but I would not trust this guy with a dead cat.

Some people may be able to short this stock, and maybe they have their agendas, but I bet it is few. I am willing to believe the investment group all feel the same as me, perhaps just a little more zealous.

I have a hard time with this stock because I was drawn to it by advertisers posting on message boards on Yahoo. I had never even heard of IHUB or HSM until trying to do research on the company. I made a little over $1,000 and then decided it wasn't worth the risk. But the irregularities and quirks are just too much.

I posted to warn people and was ridiculed on HSM and banned for no real reason. Every indication in my view is that Downs and some associates, probably mostly overseas are pulling a fast one by using a fairly legitimate product, the flash drive, and stirring up a frenzy to get the stock to go through the roof, without ever having to vouch anything.

I hope for your sake you get your money. But you should be more civil in your approach, especially on HSM. You are better than most, but, sometimes go to far.

Unfortunately, I will not be available from 10/14 to 10/22 so hopefully when I get back, this will be near its end. I am happy to eat crow if need be.

Let see if the HSM'ers are as well.

[jonesie54]

Jagvik. I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are a youngster for a moment and are more or less ignorant of market mechanisms. If you will open your eyes for a few seconds, you might see that almost everyone of the so-called bashers on this stock have been the ones telling the truth and the idiot scamming CEOs you seem so hypnotized by are the liars.

First of all. You keep calling the "investment club" of which overachiever has said he was a part, an "investment group". Do you know what an investment club is? You should look into it.

For the most part, investment clubs are made of of people like you. They all put some money into a pool and democratically decide how to invest it. They have meetings and they present DD to each other and they vote on how to allocate their funds. Most investment clubs are comprised of Grandmothers, fathers, mothers, brothers and friends. They often run their own portfolios as well and do the investment club thing as a hobby. They are not some big bad conspiracy.

I would imagine the people who have felt they have been swiindled by Downs are simply people who opened their eyes one day and said to themselves, "GEE. This guy is lying to us". Let's face it Jag, you would have to have an IQ of less than 30 not to realize Downs is a lying son of a bitch.

Next, I read one of your post over on HSM this evening. This is what you said.

Today, 09:29 PM #7305
jagvik12
HSM Enthusiast




Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: NJ
Posts: 509

If HLS commences OTC first, maybe they can follow suit with other companies in the battle against shorts-NOBO seems to be gaining national attention amongst companies, it would be nice to have HLS prevent the shorts from indecent exposure before it ever happens.

Good night all.
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Assuming you are really as lacking in knowledge as it seems and this is all not an act, I would like to advise you to educate yourself so that you are not taken in by the likes of Downs or Rufus in the future. The NOBO list is nothing more than a list of Non Objecting shareholders. It is a little more comprehensive in listing total shareholders than a DTC list because some people do not object that their names and addresses be reported to the issuer if their securities are held in street name instead of holding the physical certs. But it will not be all that useful in exposing some conspiratorially large short position..

http://www.cwilson.com/newsletters/securities/slb-dec04.htm

Guys like Rufus and Downs are con artists, Jag. They use terms and things like NOBO lists to make it all sound so official, but what you will most often find is that the guy who is the most crooked CEO of all is the one who is always "fighting the diabolical shorts". There just is not all that much shorting done on the OTC which is not connected to insider stock sales or financing arrangements.

One of these days, I may reveal to this board who I am. I can assure you that I know a hell of a lot about this scam and unlike some of the idiot speculation which has existed on that brainless HSM board, I never worked for Downs in his office in Orlando. I have looked into this very closely however and given my experience in many areas of the securities field, believe I know exactly what Downs is doing. Downs will eventually go down. He might enjoy a few years of scamming, but unless he flees the country, they will get him in the end. The guy is a reprobate and can not seem to help himself from taking one more chance. Doing one more scam and besting one more newbie. Trade this stinky POS. It is a big con job. Of that there can be little doubt. How many times does someone have to lie to you before you get the picture?


I can't speak for every basher who has shown up on this board but I have known a lot of bashers in my life and very few of them ever have a financial interest in bringing a stock down. They do it for good will or as a hobby.

One of the bashers who has been here is a retired CEO of a company which was sold to an NYSE firm One of them used to be a very well known internet expose' writer. Of course, Janice has been here. Jim Bishop makes no secrets about who he is.

Wake up Jag. I'm not teaching you any more than this.

[PennyCow]

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