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09/01/03 10:27 PM

#12521 RE: UpNDown #12519

No, AMD64 is not x86 with 64-bit extensions. AMD64 is a full 64-bit architecture that happens to offer compatibility to existing 32-bit x86 code.

Your use of the phrase "with 64-bit extensions" is FUD in that it may be taken as meaning that the 64-bittedness of AMD64 is incomplete, only offering extensions in some of the areas needed to move to a full 64-bit architecture.



Ummmmm......

http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/x86-64_wp.pdf
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. x86-64TM Technology White Paper
Key extensions to the reliable, proven, high-performance x86 instruction set not only preserve full compatibility between 32- and 64 bit environments, they also enable 32-bit applications to move up the performance ladder right along with other advances in technology...........

Extending x86 for the 64-bit World
AMD's 64-bit strategy is a straightforward extension to the current x86 instruction set. The methodology is similar to that used to extend the 16-bit architecture to 32-bits.

For operating system and application providers, development can continue uninterrupted and unburdened by transition issues and support for the 64-bit extensions in the x86-64 technology can be provided at their own pace..........

The new register extensions added via the new REX prefix add eight 64-bit GPRs (R8-R15), eight 128-bit Streaming SIMD Extensions (SSE) registers (XMM8-XMM15), and widens all
GPRs and the instruction pointer to 64 bits.



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wbmw

09/02/03 1:50 AM

#12523 RE: UpNDown #12519

UND, Re: No, AMD64 is not x86 with 64-bit extensions. AMD64 is a full 64-bit architecture that happens to offer compatibility to existing 32-bit x86 code.

I'm not going to even bother with the full response. This one is way too obvious. I suggest taking a trip to AMD's website to research the matter further before responding. Here's some help:

http://www.amd.com
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chipguy

09/02/03 8:52 AM

#12532 RE: UpNDown #12519

No, AMD64 is not x86 with 64-bit extensions. AMD64 is a full 64-bit architecture that happens to offer compatibility to existing 32-bit x86 code.

Yeah and a garbageman isn't a garbageman he's a sanitary
engineer.

Your use of the phrase "with 64-bit extensions" is FUD

ROFL. Take away 32 bit x86 compatibility and AMD64 has a
market worth of approximately zero. Calling it x86 with
64 bit extensions is not only technically accurate but
also reflects economic and business reality.