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jazz710

01/28/18 11:34 AM

#132289 RE: igotthemojo #132286

.i could see fixing MS potentially taking longer than vietnam approval...



Exactly what the PR said. I think that's because they know they have to fix these problems at the top of the chain. Might be a clue that they have a good sense of how long VN may take too.

If they just hit it hard and get going on making a clean new line, possibly starting with VN worms for MS, I think it will pay off in the long run. Meanwhile, US-based DS can continue unimpeded.
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first mike

01/28/18 12:58 PM

#132296 RE: igotthemojo #132286

talking about accuracy of insertion location:

{mojo}“These problems were commonplace in early editing techniques such as piggyBac and zinc fingers. They are more rare with Crispr/CAS.“

The reality is a bit better than that.
Recombination techniques prior to PiggyBAC were virtually uncontroled with regard to location. The odds of success were literally millions to one.
PiggyBAC was a vast improvement. It lowered the odds of success to somewhere between 1% and 0.1%.
Sangamo's version of zinc fingers, CompoZr, is actually quite good at exact location placement. It uses a a key template 9 to 15 units long, where each unit is a sequence of 3 base pairs to match a chromosomal location.
ZFN CompoZr's greatest flaw is that it is expensive and time consuming to create the proper key.
Crispr-CAS has the advantage of being much cheaper and easier to use.
I am not certain of its exact location finding mechanism (Jazz ?) but I believe that it is as accurate as CompoZr or even a bit better.
CompoZr however is/was good enough. Sangamo achieved 99++ percent accuracy of placement to a single base-triple.
MS was created using PiggyBAC but may have been refined using CompoZr at a later date.
DS was created using CompoZr and perhaps refined or modified using Crispr
The current work at KBLB uses Crispr.

Mike L.