serf, what more can i do to help, i called this play when it was at .0056, but i never thought the pavc boys would go for a 50 bagger out of the box and then rs at 1:200 to cut trading to almost zero volume, i have notified the sec and maybe the picture i painted is why they have told brokers not to allow buy orders, i did not verify this myself but that is what some have said on this board. imo