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02/15/17 8:09 PM

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'I'd Like To See You Hold Back On Settlements,' Trump Tells Netanyahu

.. the know-no-details about failed negotiations in the past bellyflops again ..

"7 Things To Know About Israeli Settlements"

February 15, 201711:59 AM ET

Bill Chappell


President Trump and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu participate in a joint news conference in
the East Room of the White House on Wednesday.
Evan Vucci/AP

With differing messages emanating from the Trump administration about its stance on the two-state solution for in the Israeli-Palestinian peace process, many eyes turned to President Trump and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu for clarity on the issue at their joint news conference at the White House .. http://www.npr.org/2017/02/15/514986341/watch-live-trump-netanyahu-hold-joint-press-conference-at-white-house .. Wednesday.



"So I'm looking at two-state and one-state — and I like the one that both parties like," Trump said when asked about the subject alongside Netanyahu at the formal news conference around midday Wednesday.

"I'm very happy with the one that both parties like. I can live with either one," Trump continued. "I thought for a while the two-state looked like it may be the easier of the two, but honestly if Bibi and if the Palestinians — if Israel and the Palestinians are happy, I'm happy with the one they like the best."

In the Israeli leader's response to the same question, Netanyahu said he was concerned with substance, not labels. And he said his two main requirements for a peace deal haven't changed.

"First, the Palestinians must recognize the Jewish state. They have to stop calling for Israel's destruction," Netanyahu said.

Secondly, he added, "in any peace agreement, Israel must retain the overriding security control over the entire area west of the Jordan River."

.. same old Bibi illegitimate line, more .. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/02/15/515391997/as-trump-and-netanyahu-meet-palestinians-watch-for-talk-of-two-state-plan

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Should the Palestinians Recognize Israel as a Jewish State?

No -- it's just another delaying tactic by Benjamin Netanyahu.

By Hussein Ibish
May 25, 2011

Should the Palestinians Recognize Israel as a Jewish State?

Most observers expected Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to target his harshest criticisms of the Palestinians during his U.S. trip on the Hamas-Fatah agreement. Surprisingly, his most important talking point turned out to be his demand for Palestinian recognition of Israel as a "Jewish state." To be sure, Netanyahu took every opportunity to denounce the Palestinian unity deal, compare Hamas to al Qaeda, and point out that some of its leaders had praised Osama bin Laden. But his most pointed, passionate, and persistent theme was that the core of the conflict, and the key to its solution, is that Palestine refuses to recognize Israel as a "Jewish state."

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The idea that Palestinians need to formally recognize the "Jewish character" of Israel is relatively new. Indeed, it does not predate the Annapolis Conference of 2007, where it was briefly floated by the Israeli delegation. Back then, Palestinians rejected it as an irrelevant diversion from final-status issues such as borders, security, Jerusalem, and refugees. The George W. Bush administration wasn’t impressed either, and in his address at the conference President Bush simply referred to Israel as "a homeland for the Jewish people."

The historic requirement for the Palestinians was, in the words of U.N. Security Council Resolution 242, to recognize Israel’s "right to live in peace within secure and recognized boundaries free from threats or acts of force." The Jewish state issue was never raised during Israel’s negotiations with Egypt and Jordan. The Palestine Liberation Organization formally recognized Israel in the Letters of Mutual Recognition in 1993, which were the basis for the Oslo process and all subsequent negotiations, while Israel merely recognized the PLO as the legitimate representative of the Palestinian people. The PLO then went through a torturous series of emendations of its core documents. The Palestinians had, at that point, fully satisfied all extant diplomatic and legal requirements regarding recognition of Israel, and waited in vain for Israel to recognize an independent state of Palestine in return.

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Netanyahu’s demand is an additional and quite recent complication to an already tangled knot, but it has sunk so deeply into the Israeli and pro-Israel consciousness that some sort of language to satisfy it may ultimately have to be found. Reciprocal recognition of the Jewish right of self-determination in Israel and the Palestinian right of self-determination in Palestine might well prove a requisite final flourish on a peace agreement. But expecting or demanding Palestinians to embellish their already unrequited recognition of Israel with an extremely problematic, premature, and, at this stage, politically impossible statement about Israel as a "Jewish state" (again, whatever that might mean) can only be interpreted as another, and entirely gratuitous, obstacle to peace.
http://foreignpolicy.com/2011/05/25/should-the-palestinians-recognize-israel-as-a-jewish-state/

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How Many Times Must the Palestinians Recognize Israel?
Netanyahu’s new 'Jewish state' mantra negates the fact that Palestinians recognized
Israel more than twenty years ago. They’re still waiting for Israel to recognize Palestine.
Hussein Ibish Mar 13, 2014 4:30 PM
http://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.premium-1.579701

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Trump pivots from US commitment to two-state solution in Middle East

While asking Israeli PM Netanyahu to "hold back a little" on settlements, US President Trump
said he would accept a one-state solution to the Middle East conflict. Trump also said
Palestinians need to recognize Israel.
http://www.dw.com/en/trump-pivots-from-us-commitment-to-two-state-solution-in-middle-east/a-37571156

All of you would have seen before now t-rump's stare, and Bibif*'s laugh.

See also:

Why Israel is not a democracy BY TIM WISE
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=104975875

A Two-State Critic, and His Critics
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=92270007

Thou Shalt Not Kill (Thyself)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=73107084

The only satisfactory solution to the Arab-Israeli conflict
is a one-state solution, which is antithetical to Zionism.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63898174

Flashback: Netanyahu discussed 1967 lines with Hillary — and there was no controversy
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=63506681

Hamas and Israel's "Right to Exist" .. YT Insert:
[the YT is dead]
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=62518789

.. those are also all linked here ..

Israel Claims Nearly 1,000 Acres of West Bank Land Near Bethlehem
By ISABEL KERSHNER AUG. 31, 2014
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=105827830







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fuagf

04/02/17 4:56 AM

#267572 RE: fuagf #264829

JimLur, In Hebron, A City Hit Hard By Violence, A Palestinian Preaches Nonviolence

January 10, 20165:15 AM ET

Daniel Estrin


Palestinian activist Issa Amro advocates nonviolence in the West Bank city of Hebron. He recently talked a teenage girl
out of an attack, but acknowledges it can be difficult to persuade young Palestinians to his position. In the background,
Israeli soldiers patrol an olive tree grove next to his home, which the army has declared off-limits to non-residents.
Daniel Estrin for NPR

The West Bank city of Hebron is where Palestinians and Israeli settlers live within yards of each other – separated by Israeli barricades and soldiers. It's long been
a place filled with friction, and over the past three months, nearly one out of three Palestinian attacks have taken place here, according to the Israeli military.

It's also the place where Palestinian activist Issa Amro is trying to preach nonviolence to Palestinians.

More: http://www.npr.org/sections/parallels/2016/01/10/462298448/in-hebron-a-city-hit-hard-by-violence-a-palestinian-preaches-nonviolence

JimLur, that story is linked in the previous .. it is a disgrace that you would post bile as this one ..
F6 , Found a source, Comment? .. https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=130088537 ..
directed against all Muslims as you have in others, too .. do you think it's just to condemn so many Muslims as Issa Amro as you do? .. do
you think it is just, in any way, shape or form? .. it isn't .. Issa Amro deserves total respect from every good person, while you deserve
none .. that's just the way it is .. you enable bigotry and hate .. you enable Muslim extremists .. i've no idea how you sleep at night.

Seven years ago.

Is Israel on the Verge of a Fascist Takeover?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=55967447

Israeli Taliban Torch Palestinian Girls’ School, Destroy Olive Trees .. [and ..] Israeli sewage-dumping affects Palestinian villages

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=55810497






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07/20/18 6:40 AM

#284779 RE: fuagf #264829

One more racist law': reactions as Israel axes Arabic as official language

"7 Things To Know About Israeli Settlements"

‘Nation state’ law gives Jews exclusive rights over Arabs who make up fifth of Israel’s population

Oliver Holmes in Nazareth, Sufian Taha in
Jerusalem,
Hazem Balousha in Gaza City

Fri 20 Jul 2018 02.56 AEST
First published on Fri 20 Jul 2018 02.55 AEST


Knesset member Oren Hazan takes a selfie with Benjamin Netanyahu, centre, after
the session that passed the contentious bill in Jerusalem.
Photograph: Olivier Fitoussi/AP

The passing of a law in Israel .. https://www.theguardian.com/world/israel .. that affords exclusive rights to Jewish people and removes Arabic as an official language has rippled through the country’s Arab minority, who have decried the legislation as unabashedly racist.

“It’s one more law, one more racist law,” said Najib Hadad, 56, in Nazareth, the country’s largest northern city whose residents are predominately Arab.

“We have got to the point where we just want to work; to live. In Israel, we have good lives, we work, and we are free to speak. We have our people in the Knesset [parliament],” he said. But he added: “This law is a racist law.”

There are roughly 1.8 million Arabs in Israel, making up about a fifth of the state’s population. They are mostly Palestinians and their descendants who remained in place after the 1948 war between Arabs and Jews. Hundreds of thousands of others were displaced or fled.

Suhad Banna, an English teacher who is also from Nazareth but lives in the Mediterranean city of Tel Aviv, said the legislation made her feel like a “class B citizen”.

“The ironic thing is that Israel is calling itself a democratic state,” she said. “I have no idea how it’s a democratic state after this bill. What democratic state are they are talking about?”

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EU leads criticism after Israel passes Jewish 'nation state' law
Read more > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/israel-adopts-controversial-jewish-nation-state-law
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Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, https://www.theguardian.com/world/benjamin-netanyahu .. has promised to ensure civil rights but says “the majority decides”.

Many Israeli Arabs complain of prejudice in their access to services and education, even as racial discrimination is illegal. The “nation-state” bill was amended this week after a previous version appeared to legalise racially segregated communities. However, another contentious clause says “the state sees the development of Jewish settlement as a national value and will act to encourage and promote its establishment and consolidation”.

Banna says Arabs in Israel are not “full citizens with equal rights”.

“I have no problem with Judaism; my problem is with the Zionism,” she said. “I am living in Tel Aviv with two roommates: one of them is a Jew, and the other one is Christian, and I am a Muslim. We are talking about it all the time.”

From Jerusalem’s Shuafat neighbourhood, a walled-off area that expanded as a Palestinian refugee camp and is now one of the most deprived districts of the city, Mahmoud Ali said Arabs have lost “what is left of our rights”.

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Israel in turmoil over bill allowing Jews and Arabs to be segregated
Read more > https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/15/israel-turmoil-bill-allowing-jews-arabs-segregated
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“I am afraid with this law the Israeli will have an excuse to expel us from our land,” the 50-year-old said. “Welcome to the dark ages.

“They can do whatever they want, and nobody can stop them. Imagine if Jordan approved a law that made it an Islamic state? The whole world would turn upside down.”

Samah Salaime, 43, who lives between Jerusalem and Tel Aviv, said everyone in the minority had previously felt like second-class citizens “but now it’s official”.

“I came from a refugee family, the rest of my family were deported to Syria in 1948, and now they are in Germany and Sweden,” she said. “They are saying we can stay under the umbrella of the Jewish state with economic rights but no language and no nation, or even culture.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/19/one-more-racist-law-reactions-as-israel-axes-arabic-as-official-language

See also:

Israel at 70: 'Why I have to tell the story of the Palestinian struggle to return home'
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=140919726

Israel’s Settlements Have No Legal Validity,
Constitute Flagrant Violation of International Law,
Security Council Reaffirms
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=137401365
.. and one of the replies ..
Apartheid, Settler Colonialism and the Palestinian State 50 Years On
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=137998540

What you need to know about the Israeli settlements
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=132667237
.. and in reply ..
Trump and Jerusalem: a legal and historical appraisal
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=136699456

What America Would Look Like If Libertarians Got Their Way
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=130046549