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tedpeele

10/28/15 9:23 AM

#28797 RE: rettacs #28791

A 15 cent drop wipes out a full year of .08 convertible interest.

That is, if DMRJ selling is inhibiting the share price by 15 cents, and a refinance or buyout happens 12 month out at .15 less that it would have because of their sellling, then an entire year of interest conversion profit is wiped out by the loss on principal:

Max convertible shares: roughly 5% of 80m 4x a year = 16 m shares.

Gain on accrued int at avg of .48 selling price: 16m x (.48-.08) = $6.4m


Convertible principal shares = 43.75m ($3.5m principal / .08)

Reduction of profit at .15 lower price = 44m x .15 = $6.56m


It seems to me, DMRJ very well may decide they can't be converting at 48 cents at all.

I think it very well could be argued successfully that retail investor FEAR of DMRJ converting has resulted in a stock price some 50 cents less than it would be otherwise. It's in DMRJ's best interest that shareholders not have that fear.


The alternative for DMRJ that works out better for them is to put pressure on Implant Sciences to delay refinancing for longer than a year. They can only do this though if others aren't willing to refinance at much better terms, or if others are willing to refinance at much better terms but WM is an idiot. I don't believe the latter is true.


<<I think you guys are looking at DMRJ selling shares from the wrong end of the telescope. From their point of view they are managing risk and making money when they can. >>

Very true, that's the point I've been trying to make, but it would be foolish for them to ignore the impact their own selling has on how much money they eventually make upon the refinance or buyout that occurs.

<<Until quite recently there was a very real chance that IMSC would crash and burn leaving DMRJ with little but unsuccessfully commercialized IP.>>

Yes. Above all else - including converting the .08 interest - DMRJ wants Implant Sciences to survive so that some day they can get the principal back.

I might suggest too that rather then Glenn pointing to an end game where DMRJ gets their money back and more as the reason he was fired, it may well have had more to do with factors related to the possibility that they would NEVER get their money back -- ie the failed demonstration may have upset the TSA, followed by the Morpho protest that perhaps DMRJ thought IMSC should have warned them was possible...those things may have weight heavily on DMRJ, and along with perhaps feeling blindsided when the cargo orders didn't come in, they may have felt it was the last straw for Glenn..just speculating, of course.


last comment: Yesterday I was adding in the 15% on principal as something they get every year also, that would be lost upon refinance/buyout but that's a mistake because upon refinance/buyout they will just refinance someone else at 15%, so it seems to me that their concern really is just accrued interest converts, and the timing and price of the refinance.




















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Buzzlityr

10/28/15 2:51 PM

#28829 RE: rettacs #28791

rettacs- well a couple of jousting points;

- failing to lower borrowing costs actually CUTS into R-D

- allowing the SP to go "penniless" is very dangerous unless you absolutely know the future is better/brighter

- I think plenty of RISK left the stock when Morpho was embarrassed in denial of their protest of $162M IDIQ award to ISC.

- Roger is NOT the point man on R-D efforts, but he could be on a refi effort, so why not set that in motion NOW because it will have to be answered by Jan. 1st irregardless.

- I don't like DM in the dilution mode but agree that a deal is a deal and honoring the deal is vital...so the onus is on lazy mgt. to do something about it, in my view.

- The best I can make of things since the last CC-- DM is making less from their converts so they may convert more in the near term. But their other converts work at a much higher level ( above $1) so getting the 8 cents out of their hands is a good thing but a painful and very elongated thing.

- IP-- not sure how much more R-D they have to perform in that the K states the E will be ready to ship in Q4-16(fiscal), so to my mind, that has to be in cert. process right now.

- the stock will NOT attract new investors until DM is gone or out of 8 cent ammo, that is a harsh reality but the operational mode at this time...so say they open up and declare the "E" has gone into cert. ( competitors know this already), but DM is still selling 8 centers--- the move up will be invisible.

- the order of recovery: a. lower borrowing costs, b. payout overdue interest, c. TSA shipment news, d. new product story...we might get to $1.20 and actually see DM convert all their sub $1.20 opportunities and actually hold a share like it was NOT 5000 degrees hot.