I completely agree with you about arrogant management and thought that was the case here when Borland was terminated. There didn't seem to be a rational excuse for not explaining it to investors to quell any unease about the company's stability. Going forward, however, we shall see if it was a good move or not, possibly Dale was an insufferable a-hole whose day was long past, he hadn't had a big-time job in over a decade. Now if we can just see a UMG contract announcement within the next week, things should be looking up indeed.