So are you saying that you are skeptical because you can't find enough history of the company? Well that could be said about 85% of the pinksheet stocks. I understand what you are saying, and I agree that you should not trade a stock if you don't trust the management, but I have no reason to doubt this stock yet. If/when I do I will move on. I certainly don't disregard anything negative, but I do try and discover where it comes from. If its some disgruntled former shareholder like subpenny I ignore it. If its a nervous current holder who seems to have a clue, I read it and make my own call. Thats all. The only reason I questioned you is because you seemed to be calling Novak a scam, which is a serious implication. You explained yourself and I appreciate it, now I'll look into it, but I still think this is going up. All pinks are speculative; very speculative...lets not pretend that pinksheets are monster corporations.