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06/28/03 12:08 PM

#7657 RE: Haddock #7652

and you apparently didn't know what he meant by Linux leaders, started talking about "corporate IT types".

But I'm glad to see my attempt to narrow down the language gave you a new chance to wheel out
your "Linus' opionion doesn't matter" line. Nice to know I brought a little simple pleasure into your life.
After all, we are just here to score points off one another, aren't we?


I thought the subject was the ability of AMD64 to take on other platforms in market share. This
is a forum for AMD investors right? If we want to delve into the psyche of Linux insiders and the
personality cult of Linus Torvalds we should perhaps instead go to slashdot or similar sites.

From the business point of view the "Linux leaders" are those OEMs who are successfully
selling systems to customers to run Linux based applications. From this source:

http://www.nwfusion.com/newsletters/linux/2003/0609linux1.html

the leaders in 1Q03 are IBM, HP, and Dell. HP and Dell are pushing Xeon and IPF for Linux
while IBM is focused on using Linux to help push z series, POWER, Xeon and IPF. Their
Opteron offering seems to be targetting HPC cluster builders on a shoestring budget who
can't afford POWER or IPF systems. Hardly a ringing endorsement for AMD from the top
three Linux leaders, or at least the leaders from the perspective of those selling server
class uPs.

Perhaps you think my comment about how many machines "core kernel hackers" buy was
flippant but in the context of this forum and board the comment was dead on and apparently
stung enough to make you feel my purpose was to score points. Perhaps you should instead
consider the vapid emptiness of making a big deal about the opinions of a handful of kernel
hackers. Does it surprise you that these individuals feel affinity to the vendor and architecture
that is obviously the underdog?

I remember AMD partisans making a huge noise about some game development star (Tim
Sweeney?) who made a strong public endorsement of Athlon and a denounciation of P4. In
the end his opinion mattered the square root of sweet f*ck all in determining the course of
the PC industry. Similarly, no matter how much of a nice guy Linus is or how respected he
is for his contribution to Linux, his personal opinion about uPs counts for equally little
within the big picture. Get over it.