Replies to post #7657 on Advanced Micro Devices Inc (AMD)

[sgolds]

chipguy, your Linux point misses an important consideration: These leaders (IBM, HPQ and Dell) have not had Opteron as an offering until recently, and not yet in the types of quantities that they need. So discussing whether Xeon is preferred as a Linux platform over a time period when Opteron is not available is stacking the deck a bit.

The embracing of Opteron by 'Linux hackers' has to do with making product going foward. If there were no 64-bit Linux implementations for Opteron then there would be no market. So while "core kernel hackers" do not purchase many systems, they are the vanguard so that the sales leaders can start offering systems based on Opteron.

Soon system vendors will have to decide whether they want to offer high performance, competitively priced 64-bit Linux systems. If the leaders want such offerings then Opteron is the only game in town.

That is the significance of systems designed for "core kernel hackers".

[yourbankruptcy]

chipguy, you turne the worlds upside down. You probably visited too many Intel sales meetings to accept their point of view that they can show any computer, even this wierd IPF, into customer a$$.

IT people who buy computers listen for Linus and comparing to what Linux said about Itanium/Opteron all Otellini's words are just a background noise.

You can force the customer to something when he has no choice, but then just watch out when a competitor brings something they really need.

Intel was so long in the business of making money that now the customers started to feel that Intel salespeople are coming to them just to make money and absolutely nothing else.

[Haddock]

Perhaps you think my comment about how many machines "core kernel hackers" buy was flippant

Yup.