I understand that but I feel Gammerman has already formed an opinion or at least understanding of IRs business format and history. Oing seemed to be primarily with SVFC on the major points from the outset and incredulous at IR not wanting to accept the full principle and interest. This whole court case, what's left of it is a non issue. I'm sure Oing is aware IR managed to tank the Pps of a public company thereby damaging the holdings of private investors. I am waiting to see if this investor group legal action takes place against IR. I would sure add my name.