as i posted earlier that the improvements demanded are almost impossible. now exide's response is here, check out the last paragraph that says that lowering of emissions is technically, physicaly or economically not feasible. politics and will be a long one. i have spent a lot of time on the data and really nervous reading it, that is why i still haven't bought it. thoughts? the vernon plant and overall sentiment about emissions, soil is too large to ignore as their 40% lead comes from here.