Tuesday, August 13, 2013 7:21:25 PM
"Maybe so...but cars are a commodity market any more...lower cost is what it is all about. I have a 9 year old SLK350...more than a little upset that the plastic headlights have deteriorated. Old days they used glass...but fuel economy and manufacturing costs have made them all plastic now...and they don't last... "
Your 9 year old SLK has plastic headlights because plastic has advantages over glass. More forgiving/less liability (can bump it and not shatter all over the street), modern cars have intricate headlight shapes for better aerodynamics (mpg goal), which would be beyond expensive to mass produce. In the glass days they only used a few shapes, but that's no longer realistic. Also, plastic is lighter, thus achieving cheaper shipping for car companies and better mpg on the vehicles. Go pick up a 3M headlight cleaner kit and it will look brand new. Just as plastic has advantages over glass, camber tires has advantages over normal tires.
"Everything has a cost/benefit analysis. If I have to pay more for a tire with camber built into it how will I benefit? Will it save me money? Enough to offset the increased cost of the tire and the suspension modifications? Joe Lunchbucket isn't concerned about better handling when he drives 20 miles to work on the freeway everyday. How much more fuel efficient will these tires be? 50%? 10%? 2%?
Not enough legitimate data out there to support an industry wide shift to this product..."
In regards to the cost/benefit analysis, you're saving money with having built in camber in the tire. To create better handling BMW, Mercedez, and other sports car leaders sell vehicles off the lot with negative camber. This negative camber wears the vehicles tires uneven (more cost for the consumer), but it allows for better handling. Scott has found a way to use the tire instead of the suspension to create this camber and thus relieving the tire from uneven wear. I think you're missing this point entirely. Like many have stated this is a future technology used in racing, but it can be easily integrated to consumer vehicles. Consumers ARE concerned with handling they want safety, which is handling, just as much as they want low costs in a vehicle.
I don't know the details on if he just uses a different mold and compound, but it seems like this technology can be picked up easily and integrated in every tire manufactures products.
In time no suspension modifications will be needed when car manufactures create the suspension to utilize the camber tire from the factory.
Your 9 year old SLK has plastic headlights because plastic has advantages over glass. More forgiving/less liability (can bump it and not shatter all over the street), modern cars have intricate headlight shapes for better aerodynamics (mpg goal), which would be beyond expensive to mass produce. In the glass days they only used a few shapes, but that's no longer realistic. Also, plastic is lighter, thus achieving cheaper shipping for car companies and better mpg on the vehicles. Go pick up a 3M headlight cleaner kit and it will look brand new. Just as plastic has advantages over glass, camber tires has advantages over normal tires.
"Everything has a cost/benefit analysis. If I have to pay more for a tire with camber built into it how will I benefit? Will it save me money? Enough to offset the increased cost of the tire and the suspension modifications? Joe Lunchbucket isn't concerned about better handling when he drives 20 miles to work on the freeway everyday. How much more fuel efficient will these tires be? 50%? 10%? 2%?
Not enough legitimate data out there to support an industry wide shift to this product..."
In regards to the cost/benefit analysis, you're saving money with having built in camber in the tire. To create better handling BMW, Mercedez, and other sports car leaders sell vehicles off the lot with negative camber. This negative camber wears the vehicles tires uneven (more cost for the consumer), but it allows for better handling. Scott has found a way to use the tire instead of the suspension to create this camber and thus relieving the tire from uneven wear. I think you're missing this point entirely. Like many have stated this is a future technology used in racing, but it can be easily integrated to consumer vehicles. Consumers ARE concerned with handling they want safety, which is handling, just as much as they want low costs in a vehicle.
I don't know the details on if he just uses a different mold and compound, but it seems like this technology can be picked up easily and integrated in every tire manufactures products.
In time no suspension modifications will be needed when car manufactures create the suspension to utilize the camber tire from the factory.
