Ok Amigo, I posted my information for everyone to see. Anyone can see the manipulation behind the scenes at HEPI, and this was probably only half of it. We'll never know the discussions that went on between Howard, John, Andrew, Maggiore, etc. My "fantasy" has always been to speculate at what is not being published, and I've always said there is a lot of manipulation behind the scenes. Seems like I was right. Are you including communication with these guys in your "publically available channels"? Hmm. Liquidfan