Zeev's Turnips Talk Politics (ZTTP)

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ml -- you omitted the definition of a "fact"

"facts" — parts of the world, or claims about the world, that are real or true regardless of what people think.

so you and your fellow believers can live happily with the "fact" that the big G created the universe and every thing in it in seven days about 12k years ago and thats a given not to be questioned

the rest of the world will proceed with investigating, testing, accumulating knowledge and proposing theories and retesting those therories to explain the "fact" that this world and every thing in it exists

plus its (our) position in the universe -- plus, plus meet our cousin, an oak tree

http://micro.magnet.fsu.edu/primer/java/scienceopticsu/powersof10/index.html