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Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:41:10 AM
OT: ...we removed Milosevic and ended horrific ethnic bloodshed and regional instability...
That is complete and utter bullsh*t.
What "we" did was bomb the piss out of millions of civilians by intentionally targeting them, the buildings they lived in, the roads they drove on. What "we" accomplished wasn't removing Milosevic, it was empowering him to stay in office longer than he otherwise would have. What "we" did was engage in an act of aggression the United Nations refused to sanction.
For all its faults and tendency towards lies, at least the Bush administration had the balls to go to the UN; the Clinton adminstration chickened out and did an end-run, violating not only the UN charter, but the NATO charter as well. And the end result was not stability, it was institutionalized instability.
I had a family member die because one of the smart bombs was intentionally sent into the top floor of an apartment building because the rules of engagement under General Clark and his boss President Clinton said that any building with a basestation was a "command and control" facility - by which definition half the buildings in New York qualify as legitimate military targets.
So before you start talking about "their" politics I think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and remove your own idealogical blinders. And before you start praising what was an illegal war, I think you need to spend some time with a few family members of mine at a graveyard or two.
The attitude in what I quoted above is as much a part of the problem as the attitude in 'zaga's posts, mate. Neither of you have shown any respect for innocent lives.
That is complete and utter bullsh*t.
What "we" did was bomb the piss out of millions of civilians by intentionally targeting them, the buildings they lived in, the roads they drove on. What "we" accomplished wasn't removing Milosevic, it was empowering him to stay in office longer than he otherwise would have. What "we" did was engage in an act of aggression the United Nations refused to sanction.
For all its faults and tendency towards lies, at least the Bush administration had the balls to go to the UN; the Clinton adminstration chickened out and did an end-run, violating not only the UN charter, but the NATO charter as well. And the end result was not stability, it was institutionalized instability.
I had a family member die because one of the smart bombs was intentionally sent into the top floor of an apartment building because the rules of engagement under General Clark and his boss President Clinton said that any building with a basestation was a "command and control" facility - by which definition half the buildings in New York qualify as legitimate military targets.
So before you start talking about "their" politics I think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and remove your own idealogical blinders. And before you start praising what was an illegal war, I think you need to spend some time with a few family members of mine at a graveyard or two.
The attitude in what I quoted above is as much a part of the problem as the attitude in 'zaga's posts, mate. Neither of you have shown any respect for innocent lives.
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