| Followers | 44 |
| Posts | 14928 |
| Boards Moderated | 8 |
| Alias Born | 07/06/2002 |
Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:41:10 AM
OT: ...we removed Milosevic and ended horrific ethnic bloodshed and regional instability...
That is complete and utter bullsh*t.
What "we" did was bomb the piss out of millions of civilians by intentionally targeting them, the buildings they lived in, the roads they drove on. What "we" accomplished wasn't removing Milosevic, it was empowering him to stay in office longer than he otherwise would have. What "we" did was engage in an act of aggression the United Nations refused to sanction.
For all its faults and tendency towards lies, at least the Bush administration had the balls to go to the UN; the Clinton adminstration chickened out and did an end-run, violating not only the UN charter, but the NATO charter as well. And the end result was not stability, it was institutionalized instability.
I had a family member die because one of the smart bombs was intentionally sent into the top floor of an apartment building because the rules of engagement under General Clark and his boss President Clinton said that any building with a basestation was a "command and control" facility - by which definition half the buildings in New York qualify as legitimate military targets.
So before you start talking about "their" politics I think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and remove your own idealogical blinders. And before you start praising what was an illegal war, I think you need to spend some time with a few family members of mine at a graveyard or two.
The attitude in what I quoted above is as much a part of the problem as the attitude in 'zaga's posts, mate. Neither of you have shown any respect for innocent lives.
That is complete and utter bullsh*t.
What "we" did was bomb the piss out of millions of civilians by intentionally targeting them, the buildings they lived in, the roads they drove on. What "we" accomplished wasn't removing Milosevic, it was empowering him to stay in office longer than he otherwise would have. What "we" did was engage in an act of aggression the United Nations refused to sanction.
For all its faults and tendency towards lies, at least the Bush administration had the balls to go to the UN; the Clinton adminstration chickened out and did an end-run, violating not only the UN charter, but the NATO charter as well. And the end result was not stability, it was institutionalized instability.
I had a family member die because one of the smart bombs was intentionally sent into the top floor of an apartment building because the rules of engagement under General Clark and his boss President Clinton said that any building with a basestation was a "command and control" facility - by which definition half the buildings in New York qualify as legitimate military targets.
So before you start talking about "their" politics I think you need to take a long hard look in the mirror and remove your own idealogical blinders. And before you start praising what was an illegal war, I think you need to spend some time with a few family members of mine at a graveyard or two.
The attitude in what I quoted above is as much a part of the problem as the attitude in 'zaga's posts, mate. Neither of you have shown any respect for innocent lives.
Recent AAPL News
- Form 144 - Report of proposed sale of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 05/27/2026 08:00:33 PM
- Apple unveils new accessibility features, and updates powered by Apple Intelligence • Business Wire • 05/19/2026 12:00:00 PM
- Form 4 - Statement of changes in beneficial ownership of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 05/12/2026 10:31:29 PM
- Form 4 - Statement of changes in beneficial ownership of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 05/08/2026 10:30:09 PM
- Apple (AAPL) shares gain after Wedbush raises target to $400 on AI optimism • IH Market News • 05/08/2026 01:31:12 PM
- TSMC posts strong April revenue growth driven by AI chip demand • IH Market News • 05/08/2026 10:01:49 AM
- Form 144 - Report of proposed sale of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 05/06/2026 08:03:51 PM
- Wall Street Poised For Further Gains Amid Rising Optimism Over U.S.-Iran Agreement: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street Futures • IH Market News • 05/06/2026 01:12:47 PM
- Wall Street Futures Rise As Markets Cheer Signs Of Possible U.S.-Iran Breakthrough: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq • UK Market News • 05/06/2026 01:12:35 PM
- U.S. futures rise after Trump pauses Hormuz mission; AMD rallies on AI-driven earnings beat: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street • IH Market News • 05/06/2026 09:27:47 AM
- U.S. futures edge higher after Trump pauses Hormuz operation; AMD rallies on AI-fueled results: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street • UK Market News • 05/06/2026 09:27:38 AM
- Form 144 - Report of proposed sale of securities • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 05/05/2026 08:17:20 PM
- Intel Shares Rise as Apple Explores Expanding Chip Supply Chain • IH Market News • 05/05/2026 10:29:32 AM
- U.S.-Iran Ceasefire Under Pressure; AMD Earnings in Focus: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street Futures • IH Market News • 05/05/2026 09:47:36 AM
- U.S.-Iran Ceasefire Uncertain; Markets Eye AMD Results: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street Futures • UK Market News • 05/05/2026 09:47:26 AM
- Stocks Steady Ahead of Monthly Jobs Report Amid Trump’s New Iran Warning: Dow Jones, S&P and Nasdaq Futures • IH Market News • 05/04/2026 01:09:54 PM
- Tech Stocks Set to Extend Rally as Apple Crushes Estimates: Dow Jones, S&P and Nasdaq Futures • IH Market News • 05/01/2026 01:09:53 PM
- Markets Edge Higher as Apple Outlook Lifts Sentiment, Oil Holds Firm: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street Futures • IH Market News • 05/01/2026 09:29:10 AM
- Markets Inch Higher as Apple Outlook Boosts Confidence, Oil Stays Elevated: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq, Wall Street Futures • UK Market News • 05/01/2026 09:29:01 AM
- Apple Shares Edge Higher on Strong Results and “Remarkable” Margin Outlook • IH Market News • 05/01/2026 09:20:05 AM
- Wall Street Futures Edge Higher After Record Highs as Earnings and Iran Tensions Stay in Focus: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq • IH Market News • 05/01/2026 08:45:30 AM
- Wall Street Futures Edge Higher After Record Rally as Earnings Strength Meets Iran Risks: Dow Jones, S&P, Nasdaq • UK Market News • 05/01/2026 08:45:17 AM
- Form 8-K - Current report • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 04/30/2026 08:30:41 PM
- Apple reports second quarter results • Business Wire • 04/30/2026 08:30:00 PM
- Form SCHEDULE 13G - Statement of Beneficial Ownership by Certain Investors • Edgar (US Regulatory) • 04/29/2026 08:40:10 PM
