A's & 8's, In response to your last paragraph: What do we own? Where is the money going? Is he selling shares to fix the problem that supposedly exists in Philly? Does he even care anymore about Iowa and Philly? These questions remain unanswered.....new Shareholders keep coming but for how long? How many noteholders are there left? What exactly is the equity financing? Is there revenue coming in? These are questions that can be answered that will help the pps and then make selling by Shiva meaniangful. This crap of pump and dump on BS is/has killed/killing this once great idea. I believe most of that was answered in the CC held on 21 AUG 2012