janice, janice, janice...when will you ever understand? If they released the actual O/S number, they would simply be playing into the hands of the ENSSFM, giving them the ammo they need to... to... brb...need to check my F#@% Those Dirty Low Down Cheating NSS Stinkin' Bastards Handbook Disclaimer: I know nothing of MDMN's specific circumstances but find that it's always safe to take the standard hardliner's (aka wingnut) position.