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Re: mlsoft post# 3414

Saturday, 01/25/2003 6:20:32 PM

Saturday, January 25, 2003 6:20:32 PM

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Allows, does not mean "required". (the difference in mathematics between a sufficient and a necessary condition). As for the gender and plurality of god in the old testament, there are female, male and plural versions of the deities name, including though, gender less names. There are short versions, like the letters, yod and heh and the letters yod and vav (so holy, that when writing the numbers 15 and 16 in Hebrew, should be made, following standards on number writing at the time, of the 10th (yod) and the fifth (heh) or sixth letter (vav), Jews write instead, 9 and 6 and 9 and 7, so as to not be writing the name of God accidentally (which will be breaching "and though shall not bear the name of god in vain").

As for the "Father, Son and holy spirit" understanding of deity, it is broader in Judaism, every Jew should consider himself the "son of god", or instance, in Deuteronomy 32:6 "Is he (the Lord) not your father who created you".

As for Sheol, in the same "Shirat Moshe" ( Moses's Poem, we learned the whole of chapter 32 by heart with many other passages, but this one is particularly striking in its poetic beauty, at least in Hebrew), 32:22 Sheol is substituted with "the nether world" (in the English Douay version, and it may be interesting to see if other English versions use "Hell" instead), "For by my wrath a fire is kindled that shall rage to the depths of the nether world...." Mind you the context is really the future punishment of those that abandon god, not in the afterworld, but in the present world. Mind you, there are about 65 citations in the old testament of the word "Sheol", 16 of them in Psalms

Four citation in Genesis have all to do with Joseph and Benjamin and that their possible death will cause Jakob sorrow to bring him to the grave, certainly, Jakob was not a candidate for Hell. (Personally, I think that the translation is bad, and it should have been "to the abyss" instead of "to the grave" or "the nether" as the English translation has it, my proof is that in Numeri (17:30 and 17:33) the other two citations of Sheol in the Torah, is when the earth opens up and swallows Korah for his rebellion).

Note seven citations in the Torah an sixteen in Psalms, both holy number (16 is a "lord equivalence" number).

As for the mentions in Psalms, it would suffice to read 49:15 to see that "the nether world" could not possibly be hell, since Hell is reserved for sinning men, not sheep.

Simply stated, the concept of after life and Hell and Heaven are foreign to traditional Judaism.

Zeev


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